Las Vegas Sphere reports $98.4M loss; CFO quits

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Las Vegas’s new $2 billion Sphere venue has reported a $98.4 million quarterly loss and the abrupt resignation of its CFO after a shouting incident with CEO James Dolan, prompting questions about its financial trajectory and leadership. Commenters note the Sphere had only just opened and is still ramping up shows, arguing that early operating losses are expected for such a capital‑intensive, one‑of‑a‑kind venue, even as concerns linger about high operating costs, pricey tickets and concessions, and reliance on Ticketmaster. Many are impressed by the technology and immersive experience and speculate it could become sustainably profitable—or follow a familiar pattern where early investors lose money and a future buyer picks up the asset cheaply.

Financial results and timing

  • Many commenters argue the ~$98M loss is unsurprising given:
    • The venue cost ~$2B to build.
    • It was open only a couple of days in the reported quarter (some say about a month; overall “very early days”).
  • Debate over what the loss includes:
    • Some note the article states financing/loan costs are included in the loss.
    • Others assume it’s mainly operating loss and that build costs are separate.
  • Several expect early quarters to be loss-making; some see the loss as “surprisingly low” for such a project.

CFO departure and CEO behavior

  • The CFO reportedly quit after being yelled at by the CEO.
  • Reactions split:
    • Some praise “boundary setting” and say you don’t have to tolerate abuse in 2023.
    • Others see typical “combative CEO” behavior, with references to prior controversial management of sports teams and use of facial recognition to bar critics.
  • Disagreement whether the resignation is tied to the loss; some see headlines as misleadingly conflating the two.

Business model, viability, and pricing

  • Sphere revenue sources mentioned:
    • Concert residencies (e.g., U2), bespoke shows, the “Postcard from Earth” film.
    • Suite licensing and exterior advertising.
  • Concerns:
    • One-off technology and bespoke content make touring acts hard; residencies and in‑house studio raise costs.
    • Extremely high drink and ticket prices may deter repeat visits, especially locals.
  • Others think early investors may lose money but the asset could later be profitable under new ownership, paralleling Eurotunnel, Iridium, and Vegas real estate history.

Ticketing and access

  • Heavy criticism of Ticketmaster in the US:
    • High junk fees, vertical dominance, and integrated “verified resale” called out.
    • Some say its mere presence is a deterrent.
  • Users from Norway report much lower fees and smoother experiences, suggesting regional differences.

Visitor experience and technology

  • Many who’ve attended shows are highly enthusiastic:
    • Interior described as far beyond IMAX/IMAX Dome: 16–18K wraparound LED display, immersive visuals, and advanced beam‑forming audio (Holoplot).
    • Comparisons to VR-level immersion; some call it the best concert experience they’ve had.
  • Others remain skeptical, seeing it as “just a giant IMAX/planetarium,” though several are corrected by those emphasizing scale and sound.

Vegas context and culture

  • Discussion of Vegas becoming far more expensive over decades; strip vs. off‑strip price differences.
  • Side debate on cannabis legality on the Strip and its potential synergy with “Laser Floyd”‑type shows.