Why you should not apply to YC
Overall framing of YC and the tweet
- Many see the tweet as less “why YC is bad” and more “why moonshot, VC-style startups may be a bad fit for most people.”
- Several commenters say the criticism mostly targets venture capital incentives, using YC as a stand‑in.
- Others think the piece is skewed by the author’s own product (a paid community) and uses YC primarily as a marketing foil.
Risk, ergodicity, and outcomes
- Thread debates the claim that YC’s model is “non‑ergodic” and bad for individual founders.
- Some argue the mathematical concept is misused or hand‑wavy; others accept the core idea: what’s optimal for a portfolio (VC) isn’t necessarily optimal for a single founder.
- YC’s reported ~1.25% “unicorn” rate is seen by some as astonishingly good, by others as a reminder that the base odds are still low.
- Multiple comments stress that success isn’t binary; many sub‑$1B exits or sustainable companies can still be life‑changing.
Deal terms, equity, and incentives
- YC’s standard deal (≈7–10% for $500k) is viewed by some as an excellent deal for early founders, especially without networks.
- Others argue strong founders can often raise at far better valuations and that YC “taxes” companies that would have existed anyway.
- Several point out misaligned incentives from preferred vs common shares and note scenarios where founders can get little from modest exits.
- There is some concrete data shared: rough figures of 58% alive, 8% acquired, 34% dead over 10 years;
351 YC exits (9%) from ~4,000 startups.
Who YC is good for
- Common view: YC is most attractive for young or first‑time founders without connections; it functions like “grad school for entrepreneurs” with network, credibility, and fundraising help.
- For mid‑career founders with families or strong earning power, many argue the VC/YC path is often not worth the risk compared to high‑paying jobs or smaller, bootstrapped businesses.
YC’s model, pivots, and practice
- Several say the article misrepresents YC’s approach: YC strongly encourages talking to users, rapid iteration, and pivots, not rigidly “digging one hole forever.”
- Some counter with anecdotes where investors or boards pushed shutdowns or pivots, reducing founder autonomy, though this isn’t clearly systemic.
Exclusivity and selection
- YC’s low acceptance rate is compared to elite universities.
- Some see this as artificial scarcity and a “status game”; others argue staff and quality constraints inevitably limit batch size.
- There’s skepticism that tens of thousands of applications can be meaningfully evaluated, but others note hiring and admissions do scaled evaluation all the time.
Meta: motives, courses, and engagement farming
- A large subthread questions the tweet author’s credibility: selling a $375 community/course, using a “hot take” style, and prior controversial tweets.
- Many label this “engagement farming” but others argue that even self‑interested critiques can surface useful perspectives.
- Several warn against course/“community” grifts in general and suggest most value is still found in free communities like HN.
Alternatives and broader strategies
- Multiple commenters highlight “small bets,” diversified income streams, or modest/lifestyle businesses as more realistic paths for many.
- Others insist that if one genuinely wants hyper‑growth and can tolerate the risk, YC remains “overwhelmingly the best” structured on‑ramp to the VC track.