Apple's risky bet on CarPlay

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CarPlay as a Purchase Criterion

  • Many commenters say CarPlay/Android Auto is now a hard requirement for new cars; some refuse to consider GM’s upcoming EVs without it.
  • Others are fine with “dumb” cars plus Bluetooth or a phone mount, seeing built‑in systems as unnecessary complexity.
  • Claims like “only 21% would buy a car without CarPlay” are widely doubted as biased or non‑representative.

CarPlay 2: Deeper Integration and Risks

  • Current CarPlay (“v1”) is widely liked as a phone-driven, infotainment-only layer.
  • The proposed “CarPlay 2” that takes over clusters and climate controls worries many:
    • Safety concerns about tying critical displays to a phone.
    • Fear of lock‑in and Apple controlling more of the car experience.
  • Others see it as inevitable differentiation: EV drivetrains are converging, so UI and interior become brand identity.

Automakers, Control, and Monetization

  • Strong theme: automakers want control to sell subscriptions (connectivity, maps, seat heaters, driver aids) and harvest data. CarPlay/AA undercut this.
  • Some argue automakers are right to fear parasitic “big tech” owning the customer interface; others see that fear as self‑serving given poor OEM software.
  • Several predict a coming era where phone integration itself becomes a paid subscription.

UX: Buttons vs Screens, Safety, and Obsolescence

  • Many hate touch‑only dashboards; knobs and fixed buttons are seen as safer and more durable.
  • Some rentals and recent cars are described as UI “hellscapes” until CarPlay/AA is connected.
  • Strong concern about infotainment aging out before the car; phone‑projection is praised because it upgrades with the phone.
  • Others want cars as standalone networked devices, not “dongles” for phones, but fear OEMs will abandon updates or add ads.

Android Auto / Automotive and Tesla

  • Confusion is common between Android Auto (phone projection) and Android Automotive (in-car OS).
  • Android Automotive is often smoother than OEM stacks, but app availability and CarPlay support vary.
  • Tesla’s integrated system gets high marks from some, but lack of CarPlay/AA and limited app ecosystem are major negatives for others.

Privacy and Data

  • Several commenters want minimal connectivity, citing reports of car telemetry sold to data brokers and insurers.
  • Others argue strong privacy law, not rejection of connectivity, is the right systemic fix.