Ontario family doctor says new AI notetaking saved her job
Healthcare incentives & workload
- Several commenters blame Canada’s (and other countries’) payment models: fee‑for‑service and low capitation rates push doctors to short visits and high volume.
- Documentation and admin work are legally required but often unpaid, driving burnout and exits from family medicine.
- Some note recent reforms (e.g., in BC) that move away from pure fee‑for‑service, but say systemic pressure and shortages remain.
Perceived benefits of AI scribes
- Many see AI note‑taking as analogous to human scribes: capturing history, exam, and decision‑making so clinicians can focus on patients.
- Reported benefits include 30–120 minutes saved per day, reduced after‑hours charting, and better capture of secondary details mentioned in visits.
- Supporters argue that even imperfect tools can improve overall care if they reduce delays and cognitive load.
Risks: accuracy, hallucinations & overreliance
- Strong concern about transcription and summarization errors, with examples of dangerous or embarrassing mistakes in other systems.
- Fear that as AI tools get “good enough,” clinicians will stop thoroughly checking notes, similar to autopilot complacency in aviation or cars.
- Some argue reading and lightly editing AI drafts is still less work than writing from scratch; others counter that this mindset itself is risky.
Privacy & data use
- Multiple comments worry about medical conversations being sent to cloud providers (e.g., big US tech), questioning legality and consent.
- HIPAA (and Canadian equivalents) are described as strict but leaky in practice: complex vendor chains, frequent breaches, and low caps on penalties.
- Patients often sign broad data‑sharing forms without understanding them; some report explicit attempts to route data to non‑compliant third parties.
Liability & regulation
- General agreement that AI systems themselves shouldn’t be legally liable; responsibility lies with clinicians, institutions, and vendors who deploy them.
- Some argue that AI tools that alter clinical text should be treated as medical devices, requiring rigorous certification—possibly hard for LLMs.
EMRs, billing, and system design
- Many see EMRs as primarily billing and compliance tools, not patient‑care tools; documentation is optimized for reimbursement codes.
- Critics say the real fix is to pay clinicians for charting and simplify requirements, not add another layer of tech that they must supervise.
Open-source and market dynamics
- Interest in open‑source scribes (e.g., SOAP generators using Whisper/LLMs) and local processing to improve privacy and lower cost.
- Skepticism that such tools will remain open: expectation that larger vendors will buy and bundle them into expensive proprietary systems.