Launch HN: Muddy (YC S19) – Multiplayer browser for getting work done
A YC-backed team has launched Muddy, a custom Chromium-based “multiplayer” browser designed to organize tabs into shared project timelines, add in-context chat and comments, and make cross-app collaboration feel more like working inside a single workspace. Commenters are intrigued by its Google Wave–like vision and deep integration of AI for organizing work, but raise concerns about the lack of Linux support, dependence on a proprietary browser, unclear data-handling and privacy guarantees, and the difficulty of displacing entrenched tools like Slack, Teams, and Chrome. Many see potential for teams juggling multiple SaaS tools, while emphasizing the need for better onboarding, clearer security models, and possibly self-hosted or open-source options to gain trust.
Product concept & perceived value
- Multiplayer, Chromium-based browser focused on shared timelines of tabs/apps, annotations, presence, and “rewindable” project history.
- Seen as especially useful during intense collaboration windows and long-running async projects where work spans many apps.
- Some users view it as “Google Wave for the web” or a “self-healing Slack channel with tab groups.”
- Others aren’t sure it fits their single‑player browsing patterns or worry about tab overload in shared spaces.
Comparison to existing tools
- Compared to Edge Workspaces and Workona: Muddy auto-creates/updates shared tabs from a project timeline, instead of relying on manual curation.
- Compared to Arc: Muddy optimizes for collaboration and task completion rather than deep customization.
- Some think it could/should be a browser plugin, but the team says browser/extension APIs are too limiting.
Technical architecture & challenges
- Built on patched Chromium to enable custom UI in web tech; Electron deemed unsuitable for a full browser.
- Learned patching via projects like Brave; key challenge is maintaining patches against upstream.
- Auto-updating on Mac/Windows described as surprisingly hard in 2024.
Platform support & deployment
- No native Linux build yet; some use Wine with mixed performance and compatibility.
- Future plan for a self-hostable version (servers, models, CI, branding).
Privacy, security, and open source concerns
- Multiple commenters stress that a work browser must be auditable; some argue “open source or it’s spyware.”
- Others note mainstream browsers are closed-source, though some deliberately avoid them.
- Thread raises questions about what data is sent to servers and how LLM features handle team content; current documentation seen as insufficient.
Collaboration vs chat tools
- Many like that conversations and comments are attached directly to tabs/resources, potentially reducing “where is X?” Slack chatter.
- Some teams have reportedly replaced Slack; others think integration with existing chat (Slack/Teams) is essential.
UX, onboarding, and monetization
- Strong praise for demo, animations, and timeline UX, but criticism of:
- Aggressive AI upsell on first search.
- Rigid password rules and sign-up friction, especially on small screens.
- Monetization expected via paid collaboration and enterprise features, not ads; details remain high-level.