Apollo 8 astronaut William Anders ID'd in WA plane crash
Reactions to Anders’ Life and Death
- Many express admiration for a “legendary” life: Apollo 8 astronaut, Earthrise photographer, general, and Fortune 500 CEO.
- Several say dying while flying at 90+ feels “on brand” or “fitting,” while others dislike that framing and argue death circumstances matter less than the life lived.
- Some are simply saddened given how few Apollo-era astronauts remain.
Crash Details and Aerobatics
- Linked video analyses and eyewitness clips suggest low-level aerobatics over water, likely a loop or split‑S started too low.
- Consensus among aviation‑savvy commenters: probable pilot error and/or loss of situational awareness, not a stall at impact.
- A minority suspect intentional suicide; others argue Occam’s razor (misjudged maneuver) and note suicide would be hard to prove.
Age, Medical Fitness, and Pilot Licensing
- Discussion of FAA requirements: biennial flight reviews, medical classes, and the newer BasicMed regime (less strict but limited to smaller, slower aircraft).
- Records show he was current under BasicMed, with a recent course and physical.
- Some say FAA exams are quite stringent; others claim an “open secret” that many older pilots fly while marginally fit.
- Debate on whether people in their 80s–90s should fly at all; some note NASA may still monitor Apollo astronauts’ health.
Risk Comparisons: Flying vs Driving
- Multiple points that private aviation accidents usually harm only occupants, unlike cars.
- Some argue an elderly pilot is less threat to the public than an elderly driver; others emphasize any crash still leaves “a big mess.”
“Fitting Way to Die” and Autonomy
- One camp praises dying “doing what you love” versus a prolonged hospital decline or dementia.
- Others point out potentially terrifying last moments and the burden on family and first responders.
- Extended back‑and‑forth on autonomy vs risk to others, and on how much final moments versus whole life should matter.
Earthrise Photo and Apollo 8 Legacy
- Strong reverence for Earthrise as a pivotal environmental image, referenced in photography, music, and culture.
- Links to reconstructions of its capture and quotes emphasizing how Apollo 8 revealed Earth itself as the key discovery.
- Several highlight Apollo 8’s audacity: first crewed Saturn V, first beyond Earth orbit, first lunar orbit, and live broadcast.
Technical & Terminology Side Threads
- Detailed correction of a mistaken claim that Earth rotated “4 miles” during the 1/250 s exposure; multiple calculations put it around 1–2 meters.
- Arguments over whether the T‑34 counts as a “jet” (it does not; it’s a piston trainer), plus distinctions among jets, turboprops, and turbofans.
- Some light sniping about “nitpicking,” with defenders saying precision in terminology matters in aviation.
Philosophical / Religious Reflections
- A few posts share prayers and religious views on the afterlife, consciousness, and near‑death experiences.
- Skeptical replies argue that gaps in neuroscience don’t imply “voodoo,” while others explore analogies (e.g., gravity as still not fully understood).