Edinburgh, Scotland makes it illegal to advertise SUVs
Edinburgh has voted to ban advertising for most fossil-fuel-intensive products on city-controlled property, including petrol and diesel cars (with an exception for non-SUV EVs), airlines, cruise holidays, and fossil fuel companies. Commenters debate whether such targeted ad bans meaningfully reduce emissions or simply amount to symbolic “nanny state” measures, with arguments ranging from climate urgency and tragedies of the commons to free speech concerns, unintended consequences for vehicle markets, and the safety and environmental impact of ever-larger cars.
Scope of Edinburgh’s Ban
- Ban targets ads on council-controlled sites only; private property and media remain unaffected.
- Prohibited categories include airlines/airports, fossil fuel companies (including petrol stations and fuel ads), cruise holidays, and most car ads.
- For cars: bans petrol, diesel, hybrids, PHEVs, and all SUVs; allows battery-electric and hydrogen cars that are not SUVs.
- Some see the headline focus on “SUVs” as misleading since the policy is broader.
Arguments in Favor
- Seen as a modest but positive step to reduce demand for high-carbon products.
- Compared to existing restrictions on alcohol/tobacco ads.
- Framed as addressing a “tragedy of the commons” where voluntary action is insufficient.
- Supporters argue perfect solutions shouldn’t block incremental progress.
Free Speech and Governance Debate
- Critics call it censorship and a violation of free speech and basic rights.
- Others respond that:
- It limits commercial advertising, not individuals’ speech or product availability.
- Corporations should not be treated as rights-bearing speakers in the same way as people.
- Some worry about “ruling class” hypocrisy if politicians still use banned products.
SUV Proliferation and Regulation
- One view: environmental and fuel-economy rules created an “SUV loophole,” making trucks/SUVs more attractive to manufacturers.
- Counterview: consumers choose SUVs for flexibility (towing, cargo, rough weather), and crossovers now get mileage close to sedans.
- Several note that modern “SUVs” are mostly crossovers on car platforms, not truck-based, with smaller MPG gaps.
- Others argue marketing plus looser standards steered demand.
Safety, Urban Form, and “Car Obesity”
- Pedestrians describe feeling less safe around larger vehicles and in streets where oversized cars barely fit.
- Discussion of an “arms race”: people upsize to feel safe against other large vehicles, worsening danger to pedestrians and smaller cars.
- Some attribute larger sizes partly to safety regulations (thicker structures), others to fashion and poor urban design that prioritizes cars.
- Disagreement over how “dangerous” roads really are; US per-capita fatality rates are cited as far higher than peer countries.
PHEVs and Vehicle Emissions
- Policy’s exclusion of PHEVs is questioned; some argue typical trip lengths make them very effective.
- Defenders of the exclusion cite studies and reports that many PHEV owners rarely plug in, leading to modest real-world savings.
- Others counter that home-charging incentives are strong and that PHEVs can “strategically dominate” EVs in some use cases (battery use, towing, infrastructure limits).
- Some suggest that if car ads are restricted at all, perhaps all car ads should be, since manufacturing, tires, and roads also emit.
Plastics, Single-Use Goods, and Externalities
- One thread questions whether bans on single-use plastics are “sensible,” arguing alternatives like paper or cotton can be environmentally worse over their life cycle.
- Others push back: plastic’s ocean pollution and microplastics are distinct harms; source-critical reading of pro-plastic opinion pieces is urged.
- Proposal to tax environmentally harmful materials instead of banning them, though skeptics note regulatory capture and weak taxation due to industry influence.
Heating and Building Efficiency Side Discussion
- Edinburgh’s old, protected buildings often use electric storage heaters and single glazing.
- Some praise storage heaters for using off-peak electricity; others say they perform poorly, overheating at night and running cold in the evening.
- Heat pumps are cited as far more efficient; insulation and timing of heat delivery are emphasized as key to efficiency.