HH70, the first high-temperature superconducting Tokamak achieves first plasma
What HH70 Achieved
- First plasma in a high‑temperature superconducting (HTS) tokamak is seen as a real engineering milestone, but “first plasma” itself is a routine step many devices reach.
- Several commenters stress the main achievement is building a working HTS tokamak from scratch in ~3 years, not the plasma performance numbers (which are sparse).
Comparison to Other Fusion Efforts
- Compared to SPARC and other Western projects, HH70 looks “underpowered” (smaller radius, much weaker field), but HH70 actually exists and runs.
- Some argue this is analogous to an early SpaceX milestone: not unprecedented physics, but fast, competent execution that enables scaling.
- Others note private fusion startups (e.g., Commonwealth Fusion) and earlier HTS tokamak work in the West, so this is not uniquely first in all senses.
High-Temperature Superconductors & “Localization Rate”
- “High‑temperature” here is understood as relative to traditional superconductors; exact operating temperatures are not given.
- “Localization rate >96%” is widely interpreted as: almost all components and IP are domestically sourced, reducing sanction exposure and foreign dependence.
Plasma vs. Fusion, Q, and Power Extraction
- Multiple replies emphasize:
- Plasma ≠ fusion; it’s just an ionized gas.
- First plasma usually uses ordinary hydrogen, with little or no fusion.
- Net gain is judged via Q (fusion power out vs. power into the plasma; and separately engineering Q vs. plant parasitic loads).
- Heat extraction in DT designs is expected to rely mainly on energetic neutrons heating a surrounding blanket and then steam turbines, similar in concept to fission plants.
- Several commenters note that no one has yet demonstrated a full, practical heat‑to‑electricity fusion cycle.
Geopolitics and Industrial Strategy
- Some see this as a potential “Sputnik moment” highlighting that China can rapidly execute complex, largely domestic high‑tech projects.
- Others counter that similar reactors and timelines exist in the West and that this press release alone shouldn’t be over‑interpreted.
Fusion vs. Renewables and Fission
- Long subthreads debate whether fusion will ever be economical versus rapidly falling costs for solar, wind, and storage.
- Pro‑fusion voices stress dispatchability, high energy density, and applications like shipping or heavy industry.
- Skeptics argue:
- Reactors are extremely complex and likely very expensive.
- Grid‑scale renewables with storage and advanced grid control may ultimately be cheaper and sufficient.
Safety, Proliferation, and Regulation
- Fusion devices are seen as much safer than fission in accident scenarios (no runaway chain reaction; plasma extinguishes if disrupted).
- One thread notes that intense neutron flux could still be used to breed weapons materials, so proliferation concerns are not automatically eliminated, though others argue similar neutron sources already exist.
- In the US, fusion is being regulated differently from fission, closer to large accelerator facilities.
Funding, Private Capital, and the MiHoYo Angle
- Historical magnetic‑fusion funding is characterized as “fusion never” levels relative to 1970s plans.
- Commenters discuss that many startups’ likely business model is selling IP/know‑how to eventual state‑backed projects rather than independently building commercial fleets.
- A widely noted anecdote: the HH70 company was early‑funded by a major Chinese game developer for tens of millions of dollars—“pennies” relative to its game revenue—illustrating how nontraditional private capital is entering fusion.