Google is the only search engine that works on Reddit now, thanks to AI deal
Reddit’s robots.txt change and Google deal
- Reddit’s
robots.txtnow disallows all generic crawlers, while serving Google a different, more permissive version. - Many see this as part of a broader strategy: close the API, block generic crawling, then sell data access (e.g., ~$60M Google AI deal).
- Some argue this is driven by financial pressure: Reddit is still loss‑making despite licensing revenue.
Impact on search and users
- Non‑Google engines (Bing, DDG, Mojeek, etc.) either lose fresh Reddit results or must buy access indirectly (e.g., via Google or licensing).
- Users who relied on
site:reddit.comfor high‑signal answers feel pushed back to Google. - Others welcome the change, happy to see less Reddit in search results, claiming many threads are low‑quality or heavily moderated “hiveminds.”
Scraping, robots.txt, and legality
- Several comments note U.S. case law that public pages can be scraped regardless of
robots.txt, though copyright and ToS still constrain use. - Others point out technical blocks (datacenter IP bans, Cloudflare, anti‑bot features) make scraping costly even if legally permitted.
- Some suggest a future of “data laundering”: independent scrapers repackaging Reddit content for AI or search under fair‑use arguments.
Competition and antitrust concerns
- One side: blame lies almost entirely with Reddit; any search engine can pay too, so not anti‑competitive.
- Other side: in practice only giants can afford many such deals, raising barriers to entry and reinforcing Google’s search monopoly.
- Some think truly exclusive indexing deals could trigger antitrust scrutiny; whether this deal is exclusive is unclear.
Ethics of monetizing user-generated content and AI
- Strong disagreement over whether Reddit is ethically entitled to sell access to user posts.
- Some emphasize users hold copyright but have granted Reddit a broad license; others stress the moral problem of monetizing unpaid labor while restricting broader access.
- Many tie this to “enshittification” of the web: platforms closing off, chasing short‑term profit, and reacting to AI scraping by becoming walled gardens.
Alternatives and broader web trends
- Lemmy and federated “distributed Reddit” are mentioned, but network effects and moderation/spam burdens are seen as major obstacles.
- Some hope this fragmentation pushes people back to independent forums and hobbyist sites; others think LLM‑driven scraping and spam will only worsen.