Caltrain's new electric trains
Overhead Electrification & Power
- Overhead wires are typically copper or slightly alloyed copper; some mention bronze, steel cores, or other alloys for strength and wear resistance.
- Caltrain uses 25 kV AC, compatible with California HSR; commenters stress severe shock risk even without direct contact.
- Discussion clarifies distinction between track electrification and diesel‑electric locomotives: US freight mostly uses diesel‑electric, but very little electrified track.
Operations, Speed & Service Patterns
- Confusion about Sunnyvale–SF trips over 2 hours is explained by all‑stop locals versus faster “Baby Bullet”/limited services.
- Passing is enabled only at a few segments with extra tracks; most overtakes are carefully scheduled rather than frequent.
- New schedules (from Sept 21) shorten Sunnyvale–SF trips to roughly 50–65 minutes.
- Speed is capped around 79 mph by track and level‑crossing constraints; time savings mainly come from faster acceleration/braking, enabling more stops with similar end‑to‑end times.
Noise & Rider Experience
- Nearby residents report the new EMUs as “much quieter” than diesel, though horns and bells at crossings remain a major annoyance.
- Some riders complain about loud door warning tones and inconsistent PA volumes across cars.
- Seats are widely described as stiffer and less comfortable, but trains add Wi‑Fi, outlets, better climate control, more storage, and more leg/knee room, which others value more.
Environment & Energy Sources
- Debate over Atherton‑style environmental lawsuits: construction is acknowledged as environmentally costly, but many argue that rail beats highways and aviation long‑term.
- One breakdown of California generation for train power: ~51% solar, 22% natural gas, 21% other renewables, 6% nuclear, ~0% coal; nuance around “marginal” versus average generation.
- Several participants criticize the article’s framing of Caltrain as a “first” or unique electric conversion and note earlier US electric mainlines.
Comparisons & Broader Rail Debates
- Europeans and others find it odd that basic electrification is newsworthy, noting their systems have been largely electric and using EMUs for decades.
- Comparisons with UK, Germany, Italy, Japan, India, Switzerland, and Australia touch on punctuality, electrification percentages, platform height/boarding efficiency, and mixed diesel–electric fleets.
- Disagreement over EMUs vs. locomotive‑hauled trains: some argue all‑powered sets are now standard and efficient; others claim added complexity and cost.
Freight, Safety & Miscellaneous
- Freight traffic on the Caltrain corridor is described as infrequent but still diesel; some see no excuse for not using electric freight locomotives.
- Earthquake behavior is briefly discussed via Shinkansen auto‑braking and memories of Loma Prieta disruptions.
- A technical blog notes new trains waste ~8–10 seconds per stop due to slow step deployment software, partially eroding travel‑time gains; suggestions include software fixes or deploying steps at low speed, with safety concerns raised.