The coming long-run slowdown in corporate profit growth and stock returns [pdf] (2023)
Paper’s main claim and reactions
- Thread centers on the idea that falling interest rates and corporate tax rates explain much of 1989–2019’s exceptional stock returns, and that this tailwind is unlikely to continue.
- Some commenters find the argument compelling and “mechanical”; others see it as overly narrow and dismissive of technology, globalization, and structural changes.
Interest rates, taxes, and stock performance
- Several argue that multi‑decade stock outperformance is strongly correlated with a four‑decade decline in rates; rising rates in 1968–1982 coincided with poor real returns.
- Others stress that high/low levels of rates matter less than their direction of change and that rates cannot keep falling from near‑zero, so the past regime is over.
- There’s pushback that rate declines are not “luck” but partly a response to deflationary innovation.
Technology, innovation, and productivity
- One side: semiconductors, software, AI, etc. obviously create massive value; it’s implausible to downplay them relative to Fed policy.
- Counterpoint: at the macro level, creative destruction shifts profits across firms more than it raises aggregate profit share; tech often becomes table stakes, not a lasting profit driver.
- Debate over the “productivity paradox” and whether current measures understate quality improvements and non‑monetized value.
Index funds, S&P 500, and market structure
- Discussion of S&P 500’s changing composition and inherent upward bias; others note the entire market also churns, so it’s still a decent proxy.
- Disagreement on whether “just buy the index” will keep working: some invoke efficient markets; others think the era of easy index gains driven by falling rates is ending.
Globalization, automation, and aggregate profits
- Some argue the paper underweights gains from global supply chains and future automation/AI.
- Others respond that under standard models, widely diffused technology and globalization don’t sustainably raise aggregate profit margins once competition responds.
Financialization, buybacks, and inequality
- Concerns that “financialization” and buybacks boost short‑term returns and executive pay while hollowing out workforces and US manufacturing.
- Counterpoints note middle‑class 401k holders also benefit, though many lack market exposure and face job insecurity.
Demographics, retirement, and regime risk
- Aging populations and retirement drawdowns are seen as a major headwind for future returns.
- Debate over whether pensions vs. 401k‑style systems better handle demographic shifts; no consensus.
Regulation and public vs. private markets
- Multiple comments describe going public as increasingly burdensome (accounting, disclosure, activism), helping drive firms to stay private and outsource capital‑intensive activities like manufacturing.