Map with public fruit trees

Alternative Maps and Tools

  • Multiple similar projects mentioned: FallingFruit, Fruitmap, Fruktkartan (Sweden), local maps for Toronto, Edmonton, Stanford area, Czech sites, etc.
  • Some cities publish open tree datasets; others have active foraging clubs.
  • iNaturalist is cited as another large, related resource.

UX and Technical Aspects

  • Complaint that every map interaction pushes a new browser history entry, breaking the back button.
  • Technical notes: using OSM tiles with Leaflet, querying OSM via Overpass, loading into a DB, serving as GeoJSON, and overlaying custom POIs without pushing data back into OSM.

Cultural Differences in Foraging

  • In parts of Europe/Estonia/Russia, picking wild fruit and mushrooms is normal; maps feel unnecessary where foraging is common and access is easy.
  • In places like Crete, certain fig trees are traditionally treated as public snacks for travelers.
  • Many anecdotes of childhood foraging, community access, and front-yard plantings intended for public use.

Sanitation, Pests, and Pollution

  • In US cities, opposition to fruit trees is linked to rotting fruit, perceived mess, stains on cars/sidewalks, and attraction of rats, raccoons, wasps, hornets, etc.
  • Others argue fallen fruit decomposes and feeds soil and wildlife.
  • Concerns about urban soil contamination (e.g., industrial legacy, traffic pollution); some say this makes urban fruit unsafe, others note commercial orchards also have historical toxic use.

Overharvesting and “Tragedy of the Commons”

  • Repeated reports of groups coming with buckets/ladders to strip trees bare, sometimes damaging branches, leaving nothing for locals or wildlife.
  • Fears that maps amplify this behavior and attract “professionals” or resellers.
  • Counterpoint: better systematic harvest for human food (especially via community or charitable projects) than letting fruit rot or feed rats.

Legal and Ethical Considerations

  • Discussion of “mundraub” (minor theft) in Germany and similar concepts; legal vs tolerated picking on public land is nuanced and context-dependent.
  • Reminder that overhanging private plants are not automatically public property.
  • Debate over whether preventing abuse justifies restricting information, versus planting more and designing systems to cope.