Cognizant found guilty of discriminating against non-Indian employees
Context of the Case
- The lawsuit concerns Cognizant, a large Indian-founded outsourcing/body‑shop firm supplying H‑1B contractors, found by a jury to have discriminated against non‑Indians.
- Several commenters stress the ruling is specifically about that H‑1B contractor model, not about every instance of “Indian managers hiring Indians” in tech generally.
Perceptions of Indian‑Dominated Hiring and Teams
- Many report long‑standing patterns at big tech firms and outsourcers: Indian managers disproportionately hiring other Indians, sometimes from the same region, school, or prior employer.
- Some non‑Indian posters describe feeling excluded from conversations, promotions, or projects, and seeing “islands” of Indian staff vs “everyone else.”
- Others note similar tribal hiring elsewhere (e.g., class, region, school) and caution against treating all Indians as a monolith.
Caste, Culture, and Discrimination Within Indian Communities
- Multiple comments say caste and regionalism travel with the diaspora, including into US tech teams; links to reporting on caste discrimination in Silicon Valley and Canada are shared.
- Others downplay caste as a driver, or say they have never personally seen caste‑based discrimination despite being from “backward” castes.
- There is agreement that in‑group/out‑group dynamics are “fractal” (region, language, caste, religion), but disagreement on how central caste is in tech workplaces.
Outsourcing, H‑1B, and Labor Economics
- A common view: this is primarily about cheap, compliant labor and visa dependence, with racism or ethnocentrism layered on top.
- H‑1B workers are seen as underpaid relative to local market rates and structurally dependent on employers (for visa, green card), which encourages long hours and deference.
- Some argue India’s dominance in H‑1B reflects US policy and market forces (large English‑speaking talent pool); others call it nepotism and “Indian mafia” behavior at certain consultancies.
Workplace Dynamics: Language, Inclusion, and Cliques
- Repeated complaints about teams switching into Indian languages in meetings, inside jokes, and socializing only within the Indian group; some firms respond with “English‑only in office” rules.
- Others counter that every group forms cliques (golf, steakhouse, expat enclaves) and that joining cross‑cultural lunches and conversations often works if you ask.
Debate on Racism, DEI, and Structural Bias
- Strong disagreement over whether describing “Indian culture” or “caste culture” is legitimate cultural critique or racist generalization.
- Some posters equate current DEI and race‑conscious policies with “reverse discrimination”; others argue structural racism/classism must be measured and actively countered.
- Moderation is explicitly invoked; several note the thread contains anti‑Indian generalizations and ask for stricter enforcement of HN guidelines.
Experiences and Counterexamples
- Numerous anecdotes: some describe toxic, hierarchical, or sexist behavior in Indian‑heavy teams (including hostility to Indian women leads); others report excellent, inclusive experiences with Indian colleagues and managers.
- A few Indians and Indian‑Americans explicitly condemn discriminatory practices within their own communities and call the verdict a wake‑up call rather than an excuse for broad anti‑Indian sentiment.