Post World War II Food
World War II–era food technologies such as Spam, powdered cheese, instant coffee, and military rations are credited with reshaping postwar diets, logistics, and the rise of mass-produced convenience foods like Cheetos and TV dinners. Commenters trace how these innovations improved shelf life and military supply chains but also helped pave the way for today’s ultra-processed, calorie-dense food environment and related obesity concerns, amid ongoing debates about fat vs. sugar, portion sizes, and “hyper-palatable” products. The thread also touches on cultural legacies (from British canned beans to Hawaiian Spam musubi), the ethics of companies like Nestlé during and after the war, and how modern societies might cope with wartime-style rationing today.
Spam, canned meat, and cultural perceptions
- Many commenters praise Spam when prepared well (fried, in fried rice, musubi, kimbap, onigiri), noting strong nostalgia in Hawaii and parts of Asia; others recall horrible institutional versions (school “spam fritters”) that ruined it for decades.
- Spam is seen as both a “poor people’s food” and a luxury gift item (e.g., South Korea).
- Concerns include high salt; suggestions include low-sodium variants, using it as an accent like bacon, or briefly soaking cubes in water (disputed effect on fat removal).
- Some argue it’s “objectively terrible” health‑wise; others counter that almost nothing is terrible in moderation.
Powdered cheese, logistics, and snack-food aftershocks
- Discussion highlights how powdered cheese and other WWII surplus (e.g., dehydrated products) seeded snack foods like Cheetos.
- Several note the logistical advantages of dehydration (weight, volume, shelf life) for feeding huge overseas armies.
- Military food tech is credited with many later supermarket staples.
- One commenter flags an apparent contradiction: the article dates powdered cheese to 1943 but also ties it to 1937 Kraft Mac & Cheese.
Processed / ultra-processed foods and obesity
- Debate over whether WWII surplus and postwar processing “started” the obesity crisis; consensus leans toward later drivers: cheap fast food, hyper-palatable formulations, aggressive lobbying, and larger portions from the 1970s onward.
- Multiple comments stress that weight gain is ultimately excess calories, but others argue focusing on thermodynamics alone ignores complex biology and satiety.
- Disagreement over NOVA’s “ultra‑processed” category (e.g., plain chicken breast vs tofu classification) and whether processing per se or overeating is the main issue.
- Fats vs carbs, sugar vs saturated fat, and the food pyramid spark contentious debate; some blame industry-funded science and sugar lobbying, others point out that all macronutrients can drive surplus calories.
Corporate behavior: Nestlé, tobacco, and food engineering
- Nestlé’s wartime and postwar conduct (e.g., links to forced labor; later infant formula marketing in poorer countries) is criticized as part of a longer pattern of profit over ethics.
- Tobacco companies’ acquisition of food brands in the ’80s–’90s and their role in engineering “hyper‑palatable” products are discussed, likened to Big Tobacco’s earlier tactics.
Rationing, victory gardens, and modern resilience
- Commenters describe WWII rationing’s cultural legacies (e.g., British canned beans, Israeli “Ben Gurion rice”) and government-led education on gardening and preservation.
- Victory gardens are praised as highly optimized small-scale food systems that could still work well.
- Several doubt that modern Americans would accept WWII‑style rationing or collective sacrifice; others counter that societies adapt more than we expect, citing COVID lockdowns as partial evidence, though their necessity and impact are heavily debated.
Military rations, MREs, and cigarettes
- Strong interest in historical and modern military rations (U.S. MREs, humanitarian rations, Soviet “tushonka,” Swiss Army cookbooks).
- WWII and Cold War rations influence today’s snack bars and shelf-stable foods.
- Many remarks on nicotine in old rations: nostalgic or intense experiences from rare cigarettes, contrasted with modern “fire-safe” products and general health harms.
Wartime food imprints on national cuisines
- Examples include: British love of tinned beans; Israeli standard bread and pearl couscous shaped by rationing and refugee influx; Soviet/Russian tushonka derived from U.S. canned meat aid.