Show HN: Shimmer – ADHD-adapted body doubling
Perceived Value vs Cost
- Many question paying $140–$340/month for coaching/body doubling when ADHD meds cost ~$10–30/month with insurance.
- Some see potential ROI if it unlocks even a few hours of productivity weekly, especially for high earners.
- Others find the price a hard stop and suggest spending similar money on licensed therapy instead.
Medication vs Coaching
- Several report life-changing benefits from stimulants, sometimes with minimal side effects.
- Others note side effects, partial symptom relief, supply shortages, insurance hassles, and contraindications with other meds.
- Common view: medication improves capacity but doesn’t automatically build habits, planning skills, or direction; coaching or therapy may still be needed.
Effectiveness and Evidence
- The startup cites internal metrics (self‑reported improvement, executive function and impairment scales) and claims ADHD coaching is evidence-based and recommended by experts.
- Multiple commenters challenge this, asking for peer‑reviewed studies and arguing ADHD coaching is not well‑validated and often oversold.
Credentials and Regulation of Coaches
- The company says it hires coaches credentialed by recognized coaching bodies and admits “coach” is an unprotected term, so it vets heavily.
- Critics argue coaching credentials are far below the training and regulation of psychologists/psychiatrists, and that using “therapy-based” language is misleading.
- Some call ADHD coaching broadly “predatory” and a way to charge therapist‑level rates without licenses or accountability.
Body Doubling Alternatives & Use Cases
- Many note informal body doubling already exists: Twitch streams, Discord study servers, coffee shops, libraries, co‑working with friends or family calls.
- Some want a slimmed‑down, always‑open virtual coworking room without coaching. Others say free or cheaper community options are sufficient.
Product Features, Pricing Details, and Roadmap
- Basic plan: ~$140/month for four 15‑minute weekly coach sessions plus unlimited body doubling and app tools.
- Discussion clarifies this is ~1 hour/month of 1:1 time; remaining value is in community, structure, and tools.
- Team is considering a body‑doubling‑only tier but worries about moderation load and changing community “vibe.”
Ethical Concerns and Community Reaction
- Strong criticism that the service exploits people with ADHD, overuses “science”/“evidence-based” claims without citing research, and blurs lines between coaching and clinical care.
- Supporters argue it fills real gaps: difficulty accessing ADHD‑aware clinicians, non‑medication options, and structured support.
Access to Care, Diagnosis, and System Frictions
- Several describe long, difficult paths to adult diagnosis and consistent medication, especially with insurance changes, shortages, or in different countries.
- Coping systems (calendars, task apps, routines, lifestyle “foundations” like sleep and exercise) are repeatedly emphasized as essential alongside any treatment.