Vivek Ramaswamy on X: "Will entire agencies be deleted? Answer: yes
Framing and Purpose of Agencies
- Some like reframing agencies as time‑bounded “task forces” with clear goals and sunset clauses to prevent endless bureaucratic growth.
- Others argue many functions (environmental protection, food and drug safety) are inherently long‑term and cannot realistically be “temporary.”
- A middle view suggests enforcement must be permanent, while rule‑making bodies could be more episodic or limited-term.
Regulation, Effectiveness, and Guardrails
- Critics say permanent agencies have failed on issues like microplastics and unhealthy ingredients, questioning their value.
- Supporters counter that imperfect regulators still delivered the safest food supply in history and that dismantling them won’t produce better outcomes.
- Some worry the real aim is removing remaining guardrails to benefit corporations and “pro‑plastics / pro‑junk food” interests.
Democratic Legitimacy and Chesterton’s Fence
- Several invoke “Chesterton’s fence”: agencies were created democratically for reasons that should be revisited before tearing them down.
- Debate over whether election results imply a mandate to dismantle agencies; some say voters clearly accepted such promises, others argue many didn’t grasp or prioritize this plank.
- Broader concerns include erosion of democratic norms, potential drift toward corporatocracy or authoritarianism, and the risk of dismantling overlapping institutions that hinder coups.
DOGE’s Status and Powers
- Confusion over what DOGE actually is: currently a non‑governmental entity, expected to become a presidential task force.
- Task forces can only recommend; they cannot close agencies or cut budgets directly.
- Some note only Congress can create or abolish departments, and thin majorities plus Senate rules may slow radical changes.
- Others warn Congress could still quickly elevate DOGE into a formal department, especially if party discipline holds.
Spending, Deficits, and What to Cut
- Some cheer the prospect of shrinking the civil workforce, merging or eliminating agencies, and tackling “bloat.”
- Others stress most federal spending is in entitlements, defense, and interest; cutting agencies alone won’t solve deficits and will anger powerful constituencies.
- Naive suggestions (e.g., folding DHS into FBI, letting airports replace TSA, axing research/standards bodies) are challenged as ignoring complex missions (Coast Guard, FEMA, NIST, spectrum management, etc.).
International and Historical Comparisons
- Argentina’s recent austerity is cited both as a success (inflation down) and a disaster (rising poverty, collapsing public education, brain drain).
- Past U.S. deficit reduction in the 1990s is contrasted with today’s tolerance for much larger deficits.
Transparency, Skepticism, and Voter Responsibility
- Some want this moment to force real scrutiny of what agencies do, with better transparency and metrics.
- Others are cynical: expect DOGE to be mostly performative, produce little lasting change, or be captured for self‑serving deals.
- Multiple commenters lament disengaged voters, argue that “elections have consequences,” and expect many to later claim they “didn’t know” what dismantling agencies entailed.