A career-ending mistake
Career Planning vs. Flexibility
- Many argue long-term (20+ year) career planning in tech is unrealistic due to rapid change, offshoring, automation, and life-stage shifts (family, health, burnout).
- Others say planning is still useful: not for predicting outcomes, but for clarifying direction, mapping options, and course-correcting every 3–5 years.
- Several posters describe successful “no-plan” or short-horizon careers, moving opportunistically from project to project.
IC vs. Management Tracks
- Strong disagreement on whether you must choose between technical and management tracks; some companies offer very hands-on lead/director roles, others force a hard fork.
- High-level IC roles exist but are seen as rare, prestige-gated, and often harder to attain than equivalent management titles.
- Management is widely described as a different skillset, not a promotion from engineering. Many note the “good IC → untrained manager” pipeline produces poor middle managers.
Quality of Management
- Many say most managers are bad; others counter that bad ICs are equally common but less damaging due to guardrails, whereas management has no “code review.”
- Some report consistently good managers who set clear expectations, align interests, and teach how to “manage your manager.”
- Structural issues: lack of training, misaligned incentives, selection by other managers rather than reports, and the Peter Principle are recurring themes.
Meaning, Money, and Career “Ends”
- One camp: optimize for fast wealth accumulation without draining life energy (e.g., FIRE, high-paying management).
- Another: prioritize satisfying work, reasonable stress, and relationships; money is secondary once basic security is met.
- Various “career ends” are proposed: stable senior IC role, VP/exec, independence/consulting, digital nomadism, frequent role hopping, public-sector stability, or early retirement.
Legacy and Impact
- Several note that in big tech, code, docs, and individual contributions often vanish or are forgotten within years; relationships and personal growth matter more.
- Others highlight long-lived systems and foundational components that persist for decades, but still see personal meaning as more important than corporate memory.
Agency and Constraints
- The thread notes a divide between high-agency readers who can re-skill or pivot and those constrained by family, health, or exhaustion.
- Reframing “I can’t” as “I won’t” is suggested by some; others call this dismissive of real structural limits.