Yes, it ‘looks like a duck,’ but carriers like the new USPS mail truck

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Legacy LLV Fleet and Replacement Timing

  • LLVs on the road are 30–40 years old, far beyond their ~20‑year intended life.
  • Bodies have held up well, but drivetrains and frames have been repeatedly replaced with expensive aftermarket parts.
  • Maintenance costs reportedly average over $5k/year, with some units exceeding $10k.
  • Some see this as proof of impressive durability; others note strong survivor bias and escalating upkeep.

Policy, EV Transition, and Politics

  • Commenters argue the delayed replacement and EV rollout stem partly from political interference, citing the 2006 postal reform law and its prefunding requirement.
  • Disagreement over whether “government incompetence” or specific political choices are to blame.
  • NGDV plan evolved from ~10% EV / 90% ICE to ~75% EV in the first large order, possibly moving to all‑EV later.

Design, Ergonomics, and Safety

  • Shape is said to follow strict requirements: short drivers must see close in front; tall drivers must stand upright in back.
  • Low hood and large glass area are praised as safer for pedestrians and better for visibility versus SUV‑style “bulldozer” fronts.
  • The design supports mailbox‑height seating so carriers can deliver without exiting, minimizing strain and time.
  • Some worry about windshield obscuration and ergonomics, others think photos mislead and actual visibility is good.

Aesthetics and Public Perception

  • Strong split on appearance: some call it ugly or “duck‑like”; others find it charming, iconic, or simply appropriate for a work truck.
  • Many argue function, safety, and worker comfort should trump looks, especially compared to status‑oriented consumer SUVs.

Cost, Capability, and Procurement Debate

  • Per‑unit cost (~$60k) and poor ICE fuel economy draw criticism; some compare unfavorably to commercial vans (e.g., Sprinter‑class, Rivian).
  • Counter‑arguments: USPS use case (short urban routes, letter mail, extreme longevity, safety and ergonomics) differs sharply from typical commercial fleets and justifies a custom vehicle.
  • Some view the contract as a defense‑contractor “boondoggle”; others note USPS studied many options and that custom, long‑life trucks can be cheaper over decades.

Controls and Driver Experience

  • Simple, tactile controls are widely praised versus touch‑only automotive UIs.
  • Carriers reportedly like the new trucks, especially the electric ones’ quiet operation and improved comfort.