Most American farmers have second jobs to stay afloat
Apocalypse, self‑sufficiency, and small-scale farming
- Several commenters fantasize or worry about owning a small farm as a backup if infrastructure collapses, but others note:
- Subsistence farming without modern inputs is very different from commercial farming.
- Even farmers are vulnerable if power and supply chains fail.
- Some argue non-farmers can adapt to manual labor fairly quickly; others say “gym fit” is not “farmer fit,” but this is disputed with concrete anecdotes.
Housing vs farmland and “subdivisions”
- The article’s reference to farms becoming “subdivisions” is read as residential development.
- Some say many farm owners deliberately aim to sell to developers; land is treated as a capital asset waiting for housing value.
- Others stress the US has a large housing shortage and object to opposing development purely to preserve unprofitable farms.
- Concern is raised about unplanned sprawl consuming prime farmland instead of doing urban/suburban infill.
Why (and how) to “protect farmers”
- One side questions why unprofitable, heavily subsidized farms should be propped up.
- Counterpoints:
- Domestic food production is seen as national security; over‑reliance on cheap foreign food could be catastrophic if cut off.
- Tools like subsidies or supply management keep domestic production viable but raise prices.
- Keeping some rural economic opportunity is viewed as socially beneficial.
- Debate over whether support should favor small farms vs megafarms, and whether current subsidies do that.
Definitions, hobby farms, and tax angles
- Multiple comments note “farmer” often means landowner, not workers; this blurs who is actually struggling.
- Many “farmers” may be:
- Hobbyists, heirs who lease out land, or high‑income people using farms as tax shelters or property‑tax reductions.
- Questions raised about:
- What share of “farmers with second jobs” are actually hobby or part‑time operators.
- Whether, in many cases, farming is the second job, not the first.
Consolidation, economics, and viability
- Several comments link the trend to industry consolidation: “get big or get out.”
- Small family farms struggle to compete with large, efficient operations; inputs rise, commodity prices fall, and more volume is needed just to stand still.
- Some view family farms as socially desirable but structurally undermined by corporate agribusiness, healthcare costs, and land-as-investment dynamics.