Toronto man creates tiny mobile homes to help unhoused people escape the cold
Cost and Funding of Tiny Mobile Homes
- Discussion notes a discrepancy: CBC cites ~$10k per unit while the project’s crowdfunding page says ~$5k in materials per unit.
- Explanations proposed: rising material prices; additional non-material costs (transport, trades, tools, unexpected expenses, living costs); or simple media inaccuracy / rounding up.
- Some worry this could hint at misuse of funds; others push back, arguing for asking tough but fair questions without assuming fraud.
- Comparison to other city programs: Portland’s shelter cabins are cited at $17–24k; Oakland is mentioned as a negative example with extremely high per-unit costs.
Practical Design and Logistics
- Makerspace experiences with similar “Conestoga huts” show issues: heavy structures that are hard to move, difficulty finding legal placement, lack of power/plumbing, and very dark interiors.
- Mobility options debated: building on trailers (expensive, needs registration and tow vehicles) vs integrated trike-based designs that stay within bike-lane rules.
- Other DIY designs (e.g., nanoshelters, coroplast micro-shelters) are referenced; concerns raised about durability (UV degradation) and insulation for cold climates.
- Some suggest small clusters with shared bathrooms/showers as more workable than fully scattered single units.
Impact on Homelessness and Services
- Broad agreement that tiny units don’t address root causes but can prevent deaths from exposure and provide dignity, privacy, and autonomy.
- Critics argue they may “perpetuate” the problem if not paired with hygiene, food, medical, and security services; maintenance of large numbers of micro-units is seen as challenging.
- Others frame them as analogous to transitional housing or cheap SROs, potentially cost-competitive if units last a few years.
Causes of Homelessness and Policy Ideas
- One camp emphasizes structural housing scarcity and high rents as primary drivers; another stresses addiction and mental illness as core issues.
- Debate over vacancy rates in Canada and whether significant numbers of empty units exist relative to homeless counts.
- Proposed policies include: better shelters with integrated services, distributed subsidized units in every new building, remote campuses in cheaper areas, and citing Finland/Denmark “housing first” approaches as superior models.
Safety, Shelters, and Lived Experience
- Several comments state many people avoid shelters due to theft, violence, strict rules, ID requirements, and heavy drug presence.
- Some view individual tiny homes as safer and more autonomous; others argue being alone in a small box can increase vulnerability to attack compared to staffed group shelters.
- Security from other homeless people is described as a main priority for some.
Language: “Homeless” vs “Unhoused”
- Extensive debate over terminology: some see “unhoused” as accurate and less stigmatizing; others view it as pointless rebranding or political signaling.
- Distinctions discussed between “homeless,” “unhoused,” “unsheltered,” and “underhoused,” with some arguing nuanced terms help policy and data, others calling it euphemism treadmill.
- A few participants with personal experience of homelessness say they don’t care much what term is used; others note language fights can distract from practical solutions.
Reactions to CBC Lite Format
- Many praise the “lite” version of the CBC page: minimal images, no autoplay video, low bandwidth, and an explicit “load image” button.
- Compared favorably to bloated news sites; some mention similar text-only or lite offerings from CNN and NPR, and third-party “plaintext” frontends.