Fixing America's elevators is becoming a heavy lift
Stairs vs. Elevators: Risk and Health
- Some argue “take the stairs” campaigns ignore significant stair-injury statistics, especially for older adults.
- Others counter that for younger, sober, capable people, stair risk is low and health benefits (cardio, activity) are meaningful.
- Debate over liability: one side worries about lawsuits from people “told to take the stairs,” the other says suits are hard to win if stairs are maintained and elevators exist as an option.
- Downstairs walking is noted as higher impact on joints with modest health benefit.
Market Structure, Regulation, and Standards
- One view: a de facto duopoly/oligopoly is sustained by excessive, fragmented regulation that raises entry costs and locks in big vendors.
- Counterview: some things are just hard and capital-intensive; many firms exist globally, so “duopoly” is overstated.
- Others say vague, state-by-state codes and grandfathered rules create gridlock and deter upgrades.
- Some see the real problem as lack of uniform federal standards rather than overregulation.
Home Elevators and Technical Details
- Home elevators are reported as increasingly common and not prohibitively expensive during construction, with minimal ongoing inspections.
- Discussion of cable vs. hydraulic vs. screw-driven systems: trade-offs in safety, speed, inspection needs, and temperature sensitivity.
- Proprietary controllers and software from major manufacturers are criticized for locking customers into expensive service contracts.
Accessibility, Aging, and Quality of Life
- The “born needing an elevator, die needing one” line is interpreted as: people need elevators at life’s extremes (infancy, old age, disability).
- Some emphasize that loss of mobility isn’t inevitable with age (diet, resistance training), others see severe frailty as making life barely worthwhile; this is contested as insensitive.
- Elevators are framed as crucial for parents with strollers, people with temporary injuries, wheelchair users, and the elderly.
Media Framing and Crisis Narrative
- Several commenters suspect “elevator crisis” headlines are PR-driven or overblown; others find the article’s concise style useful for surfacing a real, if not catastrophic, issue.
- Axios’ bullet-heavy format is described as intentional “efficient news,” not AI or laziness.
Costs, Unions, Labor, and Parts
- Former elevator workers describe very high insurance, dangerous conditions, expensive repairs, mandatory inspections, and costly cable changes.
- Some blame unions for rules against prefabrication (to preserve jobs), which may increase costs and reduce safety relative to factory work.
- Others push back, arguing workers should be well paid and that cutting labor costs isn’t a clear social good.
- Broader complaints about labor shortages and parts scarcity are raised; some question why markets don’t respond faster.
Urban Form, Maintenance Culture, and Lifestyle
- Strong Towns’ argument that U.S. cities underfund long-term maintenance is debated; critics say infrastructure upkeep is a small piece of budgets, supporters note hidden liabilities and heavy debt service.
- Multiple anecdotes: new buildings with constant elevator failures, months-long outages at train stations, and idle freight elevators that still incur regulatory fees.
- A few commenters see this as another reason to prefer low-rise, suburban/rural living and question the sustainability of high-rise development aimed at maximizing construction profits.