Uncut Currency
Pricing and Seigniorage
- Sheets are sold far above face value because they’re positioned as novelty / collector items, not as spendable cash.
- The Mint is the sole source, so it can set high prices and effectively earn seigniorage: buyers remove the notes from circulation permanently.
- Some suggest earlier low- or zero-premium coin/note programs were abused for credit-card “manufactured spend”, prompting premiums large enough to erase rewards.
- A few users reverse-calculated markups; depending on sheet, the implied “cost per dollar” ranges from modest to very high.
Legal Status and Cutting/Using Sheets
- Official Mint FAQ: individual notes on uncut sheets are legal tender and may be cut apart and spent at face value.
- Unclear whether the entire sheet counts as a single legal-tender unit; discussion focuses on the individual notes.
- Treasury guidance: damaged notes are generally redeemable if clearly more than 50% remains and security features are intact, but banks can refuse questionable pieces and send them to the Bureau of Engraving and Printing.
- Some worry about laws against mutilating currency, but official guidance explicitly permits cutting these sheets.
Collecting, Gifting, and Decor
- Common uses: framed wall art, conversation pieces in offices, unusual gift-wrap, novelty gifts for kids, and souvenirs from Mint/engraving tours.
- Sheets of $2 bills and large $1 sheets are popular; some people report strong reactions at security checkpoints when traveling with high-value sheets.
Error Notes and “Miscut” Scams
- Early uncut sheets were sometimes cut off-center and sold as “error” notes; in response, the BEP used distinct serial ranges (e.g., starting with 99) to mark sheet-origin notes.
- Advice: scrutinize serials on “miscut error” notes on resale sites; many are just DIY cuts from legitimate sheets.
Currency Design, Denominations, and Accessibility
- Debate over U.S. notes: same size and similar color, weak accessibility compared to currencies that use size, strong color, and tactile features.
- Redesigns have prioritized anti-counterfeiting and visual distinctiveness, but $1 bills are effectively frozen by law.
- Some argue for tactile features and size differences; others stress the huge retrofit cost for bill readers and ATMs.
Coins, Bills, and Small Denominations
- Repeated attempts to push dollar coins and the $2 bill into wider use have “failed” socially; many say only eliminating the $1 bill would work.
- Arguments over convenience: some find coins bulky and “change-like”; others note coins’ much longer lifespan and potential cost savings.
- Persistent political and industry resistance keeps pennies and $1 bills alive despite economic arguments to retire them.
Cash vs Electronic Payments
- Long subthread on why some still prefer cash: better support for local merchants, privacy, resistance to corporate surveillance, and avoidance of app/device risk.
- Counterarguments emphasize card convenience, fraud protection, and evidence that people spend more and tip more with cards—benefiting merchants despite fees.
- Disagreement over whether card rewards are effectively subsidized by higher prices for everyone, including cash users.
High-Denomination and Internal Notes
- Discussion of U.S. $100,000 notes and very high UK notes used only for interbank/central-bank accounting.
- These were never publicly issued; private possession would imply theft, hence “illegal” in practice.
- Older large U.S. denominations ($500–$10,000) do exist in private hands; banks must send them for destruction if deposited, so they mostly survive as valuable collectibles.
$2 Bills and Cultural Quirks
- Several users use $2 bills for tipping and gifts; they’re seen as rare, lucky, and memorable, and often must be specially ordered from banks.
- Some regional cultures (e.g., in parts of Asia) ascribe “lucky money” status to $2 bills; uncut sheets are speculated to be especially notable gifts.
- Anecdotes: custom-perforated $2 pads, mistaken suspicion of counterfeiting, and social assumptions about where $2 bills came from (e.g., strip clubs).