Hotel booking sites overcharge Bay Area customers
Geolocation, VPNs, and Fingerprinting
- Many commenters discuss using VPNs, mobile data (esp. carrier CGNAT), and user‑agent spoofing to avoid location‑based pricing.
- Some expect booking platforms to further neutralize VPNs using fingerprinting and anti‑bot techniques, though others think it may not be worth it for “techie” edge cases.
- There is interest in tools that show prices from multiple locations and device profiles side‑by‑side; “antidetect” browsers already exist but are often used for fraud.
Third‑Party Booking Sites vs Direct Booking
- Strong recurring advice: use aggregators for search, then book directly with hotels/airlines for better service, easier changes, and loyalty points.
- Several report direct bookings now being cheaper or similar, reversing an earlier era when OTAs were often cheaper.
- Others say third‑party prices can still be significantly lower, especially in low‑occupancy or distressed markets.
- Experiences with booking.com and similar sites are mixed: some praise reliability and clarity, others describe botched reservations and painful customer support.
- Hotels often dislike OTAs due to commissions; some match OTA prices, others refuse or are contractually constrained.
Price Discrimination and Market Segmentation
- Many frame Bay Area up‑charges as classic price discrimination: charging more where willingness/ability to pay is higher.
- Comparisons are made to “country rates,” student discounts, hardback vs paperback books, and segmented product lines (e.g., chip binning, cookware branding).
- Some see most “product diversity” as disguised segmentation; others distinguish transparent product tiers from secret geo‑based pricing, which they find less palatable.
Regional and Device-Based Pricing Anecdotes
- Multiple anecdotes of “Australia tax” and other country‑based markups, sometimes so extreme that buying abroad plus travel was cheaper.
- Reports of higher prices on Macs or iPhones vs Windows/Android; some links to past coverage and recent ride‑hailing examples.
- Not all attempts to reproduce Bay Area markups succeed; methodology and inventory timing effects are noted as confounders.
Dynamic Pricing, Competition, and Ethics
- Several argue dynamic, individualized pricing is profit‑maximizing and will spread widely; others worry it extracts all consumer surplus (“zero dollars left over”).
- Ethical concerns include exploitation during disasters and of less tech‑savvy users; defenders liken it to progressive taxation or couponing.
- Debate over whether market forces alone can discipline such behavior; some call for regulation, others rely on reputation and competition.