Nobody cares
Scope of “Nobody cares” claim
- Many readers reject the blanket claim; they argue people do care, but about different things, at different scales, and under constraints.
- Others resonate strongly with the sense of apathy, especially in the US in 2025, connecting it to nihilism, political decay, and everyday dysfunction.
Incentives, burnout, and alienation
- Strong theme: it’s mostly “something something incentive systems,” contrary to the post’s dismissal.
- Workers punished for caring (e.g., fixing UX, technical debt, advocating for users) burn out and eventually stop.
- Layoffs, “ballast” treatment, and spreadsheet-driven management erode loyalty and pride.
- Several connect this to Marx’s “alienation”: people don’t own their work or its outcomes, so motivation and responsibility degrade.
- Coping strategies in bureaucracies often involve deliberate indifference to avoid emotional exhaustion.
Government, DMV, and bureaucracy
- Mixed experiences: some report efficient, friendly DMVs; others confirm long lines and underfunding.
- Many argue bureaucrats and civil servants do care, but are boxed in by:
- Budget constraints and “cheap, cheap, cheap” mandates.
- Fragmented ownership, risk-aversion, and process over outcomes.
- Others counter that government structures diffuse responsibility so much that caring is effectively punished.
Corporate software, upsell UX, and “enshittification”
- McDonald’s kiosks and similar systems are seen as carefully optimized for revenue, not user comfort.
- Some engineers describe refusing to work on manipulative upsell features and being sidelined or fired.
- Widespread sense that quality, craft, and “wanting nice things” lose out to metrics and short-term profit.
Culture, Japan, and small communities
- Japan is frequently cited as a place where people “take their role seriously” (e.g., convenience store staff), but others note:
- High work pressure, suicide, xenophobia, and hidden forms of “nobody cares” (e.g., about overwork, homeless).
- Several argue caring correlates with:
- Smaller, high-trust communities where reputation matters.
- Cultures emphasizing collective good vs. US-style individualism and “hustle culture.”
What to do / coping
- Suggestions range from:
- “Be the change” in small, local ways (picking up trash, helping strangers).
- Political reform (better incentives, money out of politics).
- Choosing workplaces and communities where caring is rewarded.
- Some are openly pessimistic, having concluded that sustained caring in current systems is self-destructive.