Nobody cares

Scope of “Nobody cares” claim

  • Many readers reject the blanket claim; they argue people do care, but about different things, at different scales, and under constraints.
  • Others resonate strongly with the sense of apathy, especially in the US in 2025, connecting it to nihilism, political decay, and everyday dysfunction.

Incentives, burnout, and alienation

  • Strong theme: it’s mostly “something something incentive systems,” contrary to the post’s dismissal.
    • Workers punished for caring (e.g., fixing UX, technical debt, advocating for users) burn out and eventually stop.
    • Layoffs, “ballast” treatment, and spreadsheet-driven management erode loyalty and pride.
  • Several connect this to Marx’s “alienation”: people don’t own their work or its outcomes, so motivation and responsibility degrade.
  • Coping strategies in bureaucracies often involve deliberate indifference to avoid emotional exhaustion.

Government, DMV, and bureaucracy

  • Mixed experiences: some report efficient, friendly DMVs; others confirm long lines and underfunding.
  • Many argue bureaucrats and civil servants do care, but are boxed in by:
    • Budget constraints and “cheap, cheap, cheap” mandates.
    • Fragmented ownership, risk-aversion, and process over outcomes.
  • Others counter that government structures diffuse responsibility so much that caring is effectively punished.

Corporate software, upsell UX, and “enshittification”

  • McDonald’s kiosks and similar systems are seen as carefully optimized for revenue, not user comfort.
  • Some engineers describe refusing to work on manipulative upsell features and being sidelined or fired.
  • Widespread sense that quality, craft, and “wanting nice things” lose out to metrics and short-term profit.

Culture, Japan, and small communities

  • Japan is frequently cited as a place where people “take their role seriously” (e.g., convenience store staff), but others note:
    • High work pressure, suicide, xenophobia, and hidden forms of “nobody cares” (e.g., about overwork, homeless).
  • Several argue caring correlates with:
    • Smaller, high-trust communities where reputation matters.
    • Cultures emphasizing collective good vs. US-style individualism and “hustle culture.”

What to do / coping

  • Suggestions range from:
    • “Be the change” in small, local ways (picking up trash, helping strangers).
    • Political reform (better incentives, money out of politics).
    • Choosing workplaces and communities where caring is rewarded.
  • Some are openly pessimistic, having concluded that sustained caring in current systems is self-destructive.