Fair Pricing
Reactions to Kagi’s “Fair Pricing” change
- Many applaud pausing billing after a month of zero searches as unusually consumer‑friendly compared to typical “gym membership” style subscriptions.
- Several say this removes a psychological barrier to subscribing, especially for people with “subscription fatigue” or fear of forgetting to cancel.
- Skeptics argue it’s mostly PR: very few paying users will hit truly zero searches, and one search still triggers the full monthly fee.
- Some suggest extending the idea to partial‑use refunds or applying it to Kagi’s higher tiers and AI add‑ons.
Subscriptions, inactivity, and regulation
- A big sub‑thread generalizes to auto‑renew abuse: gyms, streaming, cloud tools, etc. make cancellation hard and profit from inactive accounts.
- Some want laws requiring auto‑cancellation or explicit reconfirmation after periods of non‑use; others warn this would just raise prices for active users.
- EU/UK consumer protection and GDPR fines are mentioned as examples where enforcement with meaningful penalties can work, though some think fines are still too low.
Flat vs usage‑based pricing
- Multiple people argue that truly “fair” pricing would be prepaid, per‑search or per‑API‑call, with caps; others counter that metering creates anxiety and friction.
- Comparisons are drawn to AI APIs, cloud, and streaming: occasional users want pay‑per‑use; heavy users prefer predictable flat fees.
- A few point out an odd incentive: with Kagi’s new policy, very light users might hesitate to do their first search in a month because it “costs” the full fee.
Perceived value and feature set
- Fans highlight: markedly cleaner results vs Google, no ads, domain up/down‑ranking and blocking, pinning favoured sites, ad/SEO‑slop suppression, and optional AI summaries triggered with a “?”.
- Several say Kagi feels like “Google from 10 years ago” and is now indispensable; others found results similar to Google/DDG and not worth $5–10/month.
- Some find non‑English or local (e.g., country‑specific business) results weaker than Google.
Privacy, identity, and trust
- Supporters like the subscription (not ad) business model and claim their experience (e.g., no ad retargeting around sensitive searches) supports Kagi’s privacy stance.
- Critics dislike having to log in and tie searches to a paid account; they prefer tools that make tracking technically impossible and distrust “just trust our policy.”
- Tor/VPN access has been spotty for some due to hosting‑provider filters; Kagi staff say they run a Tor onion service and are working on VPN issues.
Geopolitics and Yandex
- A persistent criticism: Kagi pays Yandex as an upstream source, so some refuse to subscribe while Russia’s war in Ukraine continues.
- Others argue search results should not be politically filtered and note many Western services also sit in problematic geopolitical contexts.
- The core objection is not Yandex results per se, but money flowing to a Russian company.