Hedge Funds Are Pocketing Much of Their Clients' Gains with 'No Limit' Fees
Visualization of Fees
- Several comments focus on the article’s graph style, identifying it as similar to a Voronoi treemap (Voronoi + treemap hybrid).
- Critics find it confusing and “overdesigned,” suggesting simple bar charts instead.
- Defenders argue irregular areas are useful for showing many small categories without losing them in thin slices and that area-based comparison is natural for humans.
SPY, Leverage, and Risk
- Some say this reinforces “just buy SPY” (or an ETF like VOO).
- Counterpoint: time horizon matters—someone retiring into a crash may prefer smoother 6–8% returns with reduced drawdowns.
- Debate on ways to get 2–3× leverage:
- Margin is flagged as dangerous due to margin calls in crashes.
- Leveraged ETFs (SPUU, SPXL, UPRO) criticized for daily rebalancing, volatility decay, and fees; defenders note they’ve outperformed multiples of SPY over long bull runs and can be acceptable if you understand path dependency.
- Long-dated deep ITM calls proposed as an alternative; others respond they’re costly, complex (delta, theta), and tax-inefficient.
What Hedge Funds Are For
- One camp: hedge funds aren’t about maximizing returns but providing low-beta, decorrelated, or market-neutral exposure, especially valued by institutions and very wealthy investors.
- Another camp: “we hedge, not chase alpha” is viewed as marketing speak; skeptics point to long-standing data that, in aggregate, active funds don’t beat cheap indexes after fees.
- A few note top multi-manager funds are capacity constrained and may genuinely deliver good, smoother returns, but most others mainly monetize management fees.
Fees, Lockups, and Market Discipline
- Some argue high, “no limit” fees are a voluntary problem for rich, sophisticated investors; if they accept the terms, that’s their choice.
- Others highlight frictions: lockups, infrequent redemption windows, and the long time needed to judge performance make it hard for investors to “just switch,” dulling competitive pressure.
- There are calls for better monitoring tools or institutional rules favoring low-fee vehicles; pushback stresses regulators shouldn’t “protect” wealthy LPs from contracts they sign.
Institutions, Pensions, and Social Impact
- A critical view portrays hedge funds and especially private equity as parasitic: extracting large fees from pension funds, unions, endowments, and sovereign wealth funds, then converting that into political influence.
- Proposed remedies: restrict public/union funds to low-fee structures, bar them from PE, and manage risk via simple mixes of stocks, bonds, and cash.
- Opponents argue this is exaggerated or “empirically false,” claiming PE often outperforms public markets and offers diversification; they blame fees and allocator decisions, not the vehicles themselves.
- There is factual correction that US Social Security itself holds Treasuries, though many other public pension systems do invest in hedge funds/PE.
Hedging Quality and Portfolio Construction
- Some stress that investors care about how returns are earned: low or even modest average returns can be attractive if they spike during crashes.
- Others counter that many hedges end up being worse than the underlying risk—“portfolios are littered with bad hedges.”
Careers and Industry Structure
- Brief side discussion notes hedge funds remain highly selective, often recruit only via referrals/outbound channels, and hire from a narrow pedigree pool.
- For non-quant software roles, the compensation uplift vs big tech may not justify worse hours and risk, though some are drawn by ultra-low-latency and trading infrastructure work.