Tariffs result in 10% laptop price hike in U.S. says Acer CEO

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Production locations & who’s hit by tariffs

  • Acer doesn’t do final assembly in the US, so its Chinese-made laptops are directly exposed.
  • Other brands (Apple, Lenovo, Dell, HP) are shifting some production to Vietnam, India, Mexico, or US assembly plants, so their effective tariff hit may be slightly lower but still material.
  • Commenters note that a lot of “US factories” are mostly final assembly, packaging, or customization rather than full manufacturing.

“Made in USA” claims (System76 and others)

  • Debate over System76/Thelio: chassis and some PCBs are made in Colorado from US-sourced aluminum, but CPUs, GPUs, motherboards, RAM, storage, etc. are imported.
  • Several people argue this is admirable but not economically decisive: advanced silicon largely comes from abroad, and tariffs on metals and components still raise their costs.
  • Example of “Made in X” branding where only low-value parts (cases, screws, fans) are domestic.

How tariffs affect prices and margins

  • Multiple explanations of unit economics:
    • Tariffs raise component/assembly cost; with typical laptop net margins ~5–10%, manufacturers can’t absorb large tariffs without going into loss.
    • Firms generally target percentage margins; when cost rises, they raise prices more than the pure tariff to preserve or expand margins.
  • Some argue companies will opportunistically blame tariffs/inflation to increase profits (“pandemic playbook”); others stress competition will cap margin expansion in price-sensitive segments.
  • Tariffs also reduce demand, encouraging substitution (used market, fewer purchases).

Who really pays: tax incidence & regressivity

  • Repeated point: tariffs are effectively a consumption tax on domestic buyers, not a bill to foreign producers.
  • Many frame them as regressive: higher share of low/middle-income budgets goes to taxed goods, while the wealthy spend a smaller fraction of income.
  • Long subthread on whether the rich “already pay their fair share” via income taxes vs. benefiting from capital-gains treatment, loopholes, and ability to borrow against assets.

Reshoring, strategy & geopolitics

  • Supporters see tariffs as necessary to:
    • Reduce dependence on China and potential adversaries.
    • Rebuild manufacturing and strategic capacity (electronics, chips, vehicles, steel).
  • Skeptics say current tariff levels (10–25%) are far too low and unstable to justify new US factories; firms will mostly shift to other low-cost countries (Vietnam, India, Mexico).
  • Others argue tariffs on allies (Canada, Mexico) and cuts to CHIPS-implementation staff undercut any coherent industrial strategy.

Historical experience & effectiveness

  • Examples raised:
    • Brazil and Australia’s high-tariff eras: protected local industry but left economies uncompetitive and consumers behind technologically.
    • Earlier US history: 19th–early-20th-century tariffs allegedly helped build US self-sufficiency, but critics note today’s offshored, hollowed-out supply chains are a different starting point.
  • Some conclude tariffs can protect existing strong sectors or force local plants for high-volume goods, but are poor tools for resurrecting long-dead complex industries like modern electronics.

Consumer behavior & side threads

  • Some plan to accelerate purchases before prices jump; others say they’ll delay or buy used to avoid “funding tariffs.”
  • A few discuss laptop reliability (Acer vs. ThinkPads vs. MacBooks), but others see this as tangential to tariff impact.