Mark Cuban offers to fund former 18F employees
Cuban’s Offer and Headline Framing
- Several commenters say the headline is misleading: Cuban is not “funding 18F” but offering to invest in a new private consultancy formed by ex‑18F staff, expecting government to rehire them as contractors.
- Some view this as a pragmatic way to keep the talent together after abrupt, politically driven cuts; others see it as normalizing a bad situation rather than challenging it.
Privatization and Billionaire Power
- Strong concern that this is exactly the outcome the current administration wants: shrink in‑house capacity, then rely on more expensive private vendors aligned with political interests.
- Many argue core government functions (tax filing, digital identity, healthcare, critical infrastructure) should not depend on billionaire philanthropy or profit‑driven firms.
- Others respond that billionaires inevitably have power; the choice is whether to accept beneficial actions from them or reject them entirely.
DOGE Layoffs and the “What Did You Do?” Emails
- Deep skepticism that the cuts were targeted efficiency moves based on the “5 accomplishments” email.
- Multiple commenters note layoffs predated the emails, that entire units like 18F were axed wholesale, and that agencies had instructed staff not to respond due to legal/authority concerns.
- Several highlight court rulings questioning the legality of mass firings ordered via OPM and the lack of clear chain of command.
Government vs Private Sector Efficiency
- Long subthread comparing bureaucracy in government and large corporations: consensus that both accumulate waste, politics, and “deadweight.”
- Many argue privatization rarely lowers long‑term costs; instead it adds profit margins, opaque contracting, and reduced accountability, especially in quasi‑monopoly domains (defense, utilities, healthcare).
- Others counter that private entities at least can fail and be replaced, while mismanaged agencies persist; critics reply that “too big to fail” firms and regulatory capture severely weaken that mechanism.
18F, login.gov, and Digital Capacity
- 18F is widely praised for modern, secure services like the initial version of login.gov and cloud.gov, and for attracting high‑caliber technologists at below‑market pay.
- Clarification that 18F incubated but did not currently operate login.gov, so the service isn’t immediately ownerless—though people worry about long‑term security and quality.
- Some see Cuban‑backed privatization as “better than nothing” given the dissolution; others argue it entrenches dependency on contractors and undermines the case for a strong public digital service corps.
Meta: Ideology and Discourse
- Thread reflects broader polarization: some frame DOGE as part of an authoritarian “coup” to destroy state capacity; others argue government bloat and deficits require harsh corrective action.
- A few lament that nuanced or dissenting views on these topics get heavily downvoted, turning otherwise high‑quality technical discussions into political echo chambers.