Math Academy pulled me out of the Valley of Despair
Valley of Despair, “Mount Stupidity,” and Dunning–Kruger
- Several comments expand on the “mount stupidity” metaphor: early overconfidence, then a crash when you see the true complexity and feel you “know nothing.”
- This can be traumatic at work, especially for people whose identity is tied to being smart; some managers report sharp drops in productivity and depression in such cases.
- Multiple commenters challenge the popular Dunning–Kruger meme/graph used in the blog:
- Argue the original studies were small, biased (Cornell undergrads, extra-credit seekers), and that the famous “peak/valley” curve isn’t in the data.
- Claim the effect may be largely an artifact of research design; plots in the original paper show confidence roughly increasing with competence, not a big early peak.
Being Precocious, Hitting the Wall, and Parenting Gifted Kids
- Being “the fast kid” is described as a curse: you build identity on speed and ease until you finally hit a “wall.”
- Parents of gifted children debate:
- Acceleration (skipping grades, competitions, camps) vs. depth and joy.
- Avoiding environments that are too easy, which can create fragile habits and a shutdown response when things become hard.
- Timing of the “wall”: accelerating pulls it earlier; that can help (more parental support) or hurt (peers can’t relate).
- Some emphasize grit, learning to ask for help, and valuing appropriately difficult challenges over effortless A’s.
- Others stress not pushing, but providing resources and following the child’s actual interest, not parental ego.
Big Fish, Small Pond and Identity Shocks
- Several people recount going from top of a small or weak school to elite environments (PhD programs, big-tech, SF Bay Area) and discovering they’re merely average.
- This can produce impostor syndrome, regret about missed earlier exposure, or a reorientation toward effort rather than talent.
Math Education: Drill, Depth, and Proofs
- Some defend “drill” as vital; others praise systems (like Math Academy) that cut redundant easy problems once mastery is shown.
- Concerns about skipping foundational courses: missing “pre-algebra” or similar often causes long-term gaps.
- One camp calls for earlier, deeper math (algebra, calculus, Green’s functions in high school) and more project-based work; another notes past attempts at rigorous “new math” struggled to scale.
- Several highlight how traditional teaching over-emphasizes mechanical techniques (substitutions, matrix inversion) and under-emphasizes proofs, motivation, and stories, which can make math feel pointless.
Math Academy: Praise, Critique, and Comparisons
- Many commenters report very positive experiences:
- Strong, coherent curriculum from basics to advanced topics (e.g., math for ML).
- Adaptive graph of skills, spaced repetition, and short, focused lessons that skip ahead when you’re clearly competent.
- Better UX and less tedium than some free platforms.
- For adults with gaps from earlier schooling, “doing math over” is described as exhilarating and confidence-restoring.
- Others note pain points:
- Onboarding diagnostic test feels excessively long and demotivating.
- No good phone support.
- Some bugs (notation issues, input quirks, parental controls) and gamification (XP) that can feel unfair or infantilizing.
- At least one gifted child found it “boring, annoying and stupid,” suggesting fit varies.
Pricing, Access, and Alternatives
- Price (~$49/month) is the dominant criticism:
- Seen as a bargain vs. US in‑person tutoring or premium programs (AoPS, Kumon, Russian math), but expensive or prohibitive in many countries and for poorer families.
- Multiple calls for regional/PPP pricing and student discounts; some say they cancelled despite loving the product.
- Suggestions for cheaper self-study:
- Khan Academy, YouTube channels, and classic textbooks.
- Open University math books (MU123, MST124, MST125, etc.) as low-cost, self-contained paths up to first‑year university level.
- Some argue even $10/month would still exclude much of the global population; others say the real constraint is not just money but also the small fraction of people willing to do sustained self-education.
Meta-Reactions to the Blog Post
- Many find the story inspiring, especially from someone who wasn’t a high-school math star.
- A few feel the ending reads like an extended advert for Math Academy or a “publicity stunt,” though others push back, pointing to specific, detailed experiences rather than generic marketing language.