Tesla gets more than 20% of parts from Mexico, it will be affected by tariffs
Tariff Waivers and Selective Application
- Several commenters assume Tesla will secure a waiver or delay, citing broad, discretionary waiver power and past patterns where announced tariffs were softened, postponed, or used mainly as price-raising cover.
- Others question why Tesla would be favored, but replies argue waivers are inherently political and can be targeted to individual firms, enabling cronyism.
- Some see the whole tariff regime as a “scam” that will be flexibly enforced to reward allies and punish enemies of the administration.
Impact on Tesla vs Other Automakers
- Tesla is viewed as relatively agile: vertically integrated, software-centric, and capable of swapping components, as seen during pandemic chip shortages.
- Legacy automakers are thought to be more exposed: factories and suppliers on both sides of the border, longer design and supply-chain lead times, and less ability to reconfigure quickly.
- Expectation from multiple commenters: most carmakers will lobby for adjustments and likely receive them.
Constitutionality and Executive Power
- Strong concern that Congress has effectively handed the president an “on-demand, retroactive, reversible” line-item veto via tariff and waiver authority.
- Commenters argue this conflicts with constitutional provisions on uniform duties and recent Supreme Court reasoning limiting executive action in other contexts.
- The “fentanyl emergency” framing is criticized as a pretext to unlock emergency tariff powers and extend them beyond any plausible link to fentanyl.
Broader Geopolitics: Allies, Russia, and Ukraine
- Many are baffled that tariffs target Mexico, Canada, and the EU—seen as key “friend-shoring” partners—while US policy appears increasingly accommodating to Russia.
- There is an extended, contentious debate over US–Russia–Ukraine history, NATO expansion, “color revolutions,” biolabs, and whether current policy is defensive vs provocatively anti-Russian.
- Some see Europe as hypocritical for having long funded Russia through energy imports while professing support for Ukraine.
Tariffs, Tax Policy, and Class Effects
- Multiple comments argue tariffs are being used to shift from progressive income taxes toward regressive consumption taxes.
- Tariffs are expected to raise prices broadly, hitting lower- and middle-income consumers hardest, while high earners get income-tax cuts.
- Others worry tariffs become a tool for executive coercion of specific companies (e.g., threatening punitive rates to force political compliance).
Voter Self-Interest and Democracy
- Meta-discussion notes HN’s focus on “voting against self-interest,” pushing back that voters may prioritize non-economic values.
- Side debate covers voter suppression (gerrymandering, ID laws, polling access) and how people sometimes support policies that make it harder for them to vote in future elections.