Germany tightens travel advice to US after three citizens detained
Scope and Meaning of the Updated Advice
- Debate over whether “tightened travel advice” is substantive or mostly rhetorical; official line says it is not a formal warning, yet several commenters argue that needing to clarify that is itself a warning.
- Some say nothing legally changed; others counter that practice at the border clearly has, justifying stronger wording.
- UK and Finland have issued similar advisories, including specific warnings (e.g., about gender markers matching assigned sex at birth).
Risk Level: Ordinary Tourists vs. Targeted Groups
- One camp insists normal tourists with correct documents are overwhelmingly fine and that detentions typically involve visa issues, informal work, or prior violations.
- Opponents argue recent cases show people with valid visas, green cards, and seemingly minor issues being detained for days or weeks, making the risk non-negligible.
- Several note that this kind of arbitrary treatment has long existed for non‑white, Muslim, or Global South travelers; what’s new is that white Europeans and Canadians are now visibly affected.
Cases, Treatment, and Rights Concerns
- Multiple linked reports describe violent or degrading interrogations, prolonged detention, solitary confinement, and lack of clear charges or timelines.
- Commenters emphasize the fear of being locked up instead of simply denied entry and put on a return flight.
- Concerns about border searches of phones and social media, and about people seemingly targeted for political speech, create a chilling effect on expression.
Systemic Factors: Detention Industry and Enforcement Culture
- Several highlight the role of private, for‑profit detention centers paid per bed or per facility, creating incentives for longer and more frequent detentions.
- Border and immigration officers are described as wielding broad discretionary power with limited oversight; some see recent political rhetoric as emboldening “mini‑dictator” behavior.
Perception, Politics, and Consequences
- Disagreement over data: some demand statistics to prove an increase; others argue that even a small but visible number of abusive cases, plus distrust of official data, is enough to drive behavior.
- Many non‑US commenters say they are now avoiding US travel, comparing the risk calculus to visiting authoritarian states.
- Broader discussion ties this to Trump‑era authoritarian drift, partisan media ecosystems, and a decline in international trust and US soft power.