The great Hobby Lobby artifact heist
Reactions to the article and tone
- Many readers feel the piece is overly snarky toward the family’s faith, which they say undermines its credibility and makes it read like a “hit piece” rather than even‑handed reporting.
- Others argue the sarcasm is mild, appropriate for a blog, and proportional to the seriousness of the alleged misconduct.
- There’s debate over whether a Substack essay should be judged as “journalism” and how much rigor and neutrality readers should expect.
- Some pick at writing issues (ambiguous phrasing, misuse of “begs the question,” typos) as signs of sloppiness; others dismiss this as nitpicking used to discredit the substance.
Evangelical Christianity, politics, and resentment
- A large subthread explores how dismissive or mocking attitudes toward Christians, especially evangelicals, have pushed some toward MAGA politics.
- Counter‑arguments say the issue is not mere disrespect but real harms: queerphobia, anti‑abortion politics, and support for illiberal laws.
- Several comments explicitly express deep hostility toward religion, calling it regressive and harmful; others stress that many Christians are moderate and feel unfairly lumped in with extremists.
- There’s disagreement over whether ridiculing fundamentalists is morally necessary or politically self‑defeating.
Hobby Lobby / Green family criticisms and defenses
- Criticisms highlighted:
- Acquisition of thousands of artifacts with dubious or clearly illegal provenance, including mislabeling imports and later government seizures and returns.
- Use of charitable donations and inflated appraisals of land and artifacts as aggressive tax‑reduction strategies framed as “kingdom giving.”
- Opposition to contraception coverage, seen as imposing religious views via the courts.
- Alleged queer‑hostile stances and use of Christianity as cover for bigotry and profit.
- Defenses and mitigations:
- Some suggest their faith sincerely motivates preservation and philanthropy, and that focusing on tone distracts from more nuanced questions.
- A few argue that wealthy collectors can “save” artifacts from destruction by extremists, though others say this simply fuels looting markets.
Archaeological ethics and the “heist” framing
- Several commenters stress that buying looted artifacts—especially during Middle Eastern turmoil—encourages trafficking and may indirectly fund violent groups.
- Others initially see only wealthy collectors paying for antiquities and making them public, and are surprised to learn about smuggling, falsified documents, and mass returns.
- Comparisons are made to the British Museum: some call that “professional looting,” others say it historically preserved items under laxer laws.
- There’s concern about destructive practices (e.g., dismantling mummy masks to hunt for biblical fragments), viewed as desecration rather than conservation.
Labor, disability, and wages
- The article’s reference to disabled workers being paid per piece sparks debate.
- One side sees this as exploitative Christian hypocrisy; another notes that, in theory, subminimum wages can coexist with disability benefits and meaningful work, though abuses and low living standards are major risks.
- Alternative policies (wage subsidies, mandatory quotas, tax breaks) are discussed as fairer ways to include disabled workers.
Meta: HN, religion, and culture war dynamics
- Multiple commenters notice an unusually strong defense of evangelical Christians and more overtly religious perspectives on HN than they expected.
- Possible explanations raised: increased online proselytizing, algorithmic amplification of religious content elsewhere, and shifting attitudes after the decline of loud “capital‑A atheism.”
- Others attribute the thread’s tone to general culture‑war polarization and brigading on non‑technical stories.
Miscellaneous side threads
- Minor tangents include: identifying construction equipment in a photo, a virtual tour of another religious art museum, speculation about Hobby Lobby’s lack of barcodes, and whether their receipts facilitate accounting games.