Met Police smash down door of Quaker meeting house to arrest activists
Analogies to Fascism and Authoritarian Drift
- One commenter likened the raid to a “small-scale” Kristallnacht; others strongly rejected this as historically inaccurate and counterproductive.
- There is concern that overblown Nazi analogies make it easier to dismiss real authoritarian trends, especially for people already targeted.
- Still, some see this incident as a “harbinger” of worse to come in terms of state repression of dissent.
Quaker Identity and Meeting Context
- Several highlight Quakers’ reputation for pacifism and non-violence, contrasting that with the aggressive police raid.
- Others note Quakerism today is politically engaged, often less theistic, and not the same institution it was a century ago; they argue the “Quaker” label is being used emotively.
- The detail that attendees were sitting in a circle eating hummus and breadsticks fuels both dark humor and a sense of disproportionality.
- A quip about calmly drinking tea in front of officers is seen as quintessentially British.
Legality, Policing Tactics, and Civil Disobedience
- One side stresses the group’s explicit focus on unlawful civil disobedience and prior convictions, arguing that sheltering such activists justifies a forceful raid; “no right of sanctuary” in the UK is emphasized.
- Others argue that “conspiracy to cause a public nuisance” is so broad it effectively criminalizes planning protests and undermines a free society.
- Pre-emptive arrests are defended via analogy to stopping rapists or murderers before the act; critics see this as “Orwellian” thought-policing.
Broader Politics, Social Media, and Fascism
- Some see this as part of a wider pattern in the UK, US, Germany, and France: centrist parties tolerating or enabling far-right tendencies while being harsher on the left.
- Debate over whether social media causes rising fascism: one view blames it as a propaganda amplifier; another says it merely reflects long-standing, deeply rooted prejudices.
- A subthread distinguishes “leftists” from “neoliberal” liberals, especially around housing, segregation, and gentrification.
Impact on Activism and Public Perception
- Several note the raid may be self-defeating: it gives activists huge publicity and further radicalizes young people.
- There is a strong sense that non-violent protest against alleged genocide is being increasingly punished and delegitimized.