ICE director envisions Amazon-like mass deportation system
Historical and fascism analogies
- Many see the “Amazon Prime, but with human beings” remark as chilling, drawing explicit parallels to industrialized deportations and the early stages of 1930s–40s European atrocities.
- Commenters argue that past genocidal regimes also began with “deportation schemes” that were normalized and bureaucratized before escalating.
- Some reject the idea that invoking these parallels is hyperbole, asserting that openly fascistic figures and movements are already visible and in power.
Dehumanization and business framing
- The core outrage centers on treating deportation as a logistics problem and people as packages or SKUs.
- Several argue that “evil begins when you treat people as things,” linking this to broader corporate practices where workers are reduced to IDs and productivity metrics.
- The context that the remark was made at a “Border Security Expo” for vendors is seen as making it worse, not better, because it highlights the commercialization of state violence.
Prisons, incentives, and quotas
- Discussion connects ICE to the US prison system: private detention, perverse incentives to keep beds full, and de facto deportation quotas leading to arbitrary or excessive detentions (including tourists).
- Others note that most US prisoners are in public facilities, but forced labor and lack of rehabilitation make the public system little better than private.
- Counting prisoners and undocumented immigrants for political representation while denying them the vote is compared to earlier systems that treated marginalized people as population but not citizens.
Economic and labor impacts
- Some point out that mass deportation would remove workers, consumers, and taxpayers, harming the economy except for contractors who profit from enforcement.
- Others argue that migrant labor is used to suppress wages, and popular anger reflects an economy skewed toward business over workers.
- There is frustration that aging societies objectively need immigrants but still mobilize against them.
International reactions and border culture
- Multiple anecdotes depict US border and visa processes as uniquely hostile and performatively authoritarian compared to Europe or even China.
- Non‑Americans describe rapidly hardening anti‑American sentiment, driven by perceived US hubris, threats toward allies, and erratic leadership.
- Smaller countries feel deeply affected by US internal politics yet powerless to influence them.
Politics and global migration rhetoric
- Commenters note that weaponized fear of migrants is not unique to the US: examples include Brexit, German “remigration” debates, and Australian “stop the boats” politics.
- One view is that US “immigration problems” are largely self‑inflicted: one party makes legal immigration hard; the other blunts enforcement, producing large undocumented populations living and working in limbo.
Root causes and proportionality
- Some argue the US should stop bombing, destabilizing, and exploiting other countries if it wants fewer migrants.
- There is concern that a system supposedly targeting “worst abusers” in practice sweeps up ordinary visitors and residents, making weeks-long detention for visa issues routine and normalized.