Sleep is essential – researchers are trying to work out why
AI “hallucinations” vs human sleep deprivation
- Commenters note that extreme sleep deprivation in humans leads to hallucinations, inspiring analogies to LLM “hallucinations.”
- Several argue “hallucination” is a misleading, anthropomorphic term for AI; alternatives suggested include “confabulation” or “pattern-based statistical prediction.”
- Others point out that terms like “understanding” and “thinking” are similarly anthropomorphic but widely used.
Why evolution keeps sleep around
- Many see sleep as a broad “maintenance window” for the body and brain—memory consolidation, physical repair, metabolic cleanup—scheduled during low-value times (dark, cold, risky).
- Others push for more precise answers: which maintenance tasks specifically, and why unconsciousness is required.
- Examples cited: unihemispheric sleep in dolphins and birds, and hibernation as an extreme energy-saving variant.
- Some suggest sleep’s importance is shown by its persistence despite vulnerability; others note that being hidden and still can itself reduce risk.
Huge variation in sleep needs and patterns
- Multiple anecdotes of people functioning well on 5–6 hours vs needing 8–9; some mention recognized “short sleeper syndrome,” but one thread critiques overconfident medical writing claiming it has “no known risks.”
- Depth and continuity of sleep (quiet rooms, sleeping alone, kids/pets in bed) are repeatedly described as at least as important as total hours.
- Biphasic sleep (two chunks per night) comes up; people debate whether this is “natural” or an adaptation to long winter nights.
- There’s mild disagreement whether many people who say they’re fine on little sleep are actually accumulating long-term harm (unclear in the thread).
Tech, gadgets, and stimulation
- Smart alarms that wake within a time window, aiming for light sleep, are discussed (watch features and phone apps).
- Sleep-tracking wearables and rings may hint at sleep apnea but are not seen as definitive diagnosis tools.
- One company in the thread promotes “pink noise” / slow-wave enhancement tech to boost deep sleep for cognitive and Alzheimer’s-related benefits, framing it as augmenting, not creating, slow waves.
Sleep apnea, medicine, and distrust
- A long, detailed account describes severe untreated apnea (dozens of events per hour, very low oxygen saturation) and life-changing improvement with CPAP.
- Others echo that CPAP can be transformative but hard to calibrate, with poor clinical support and side effects (air in stomach, mask issues).
- Strong pushback against claims that apnea is mostly cured by weight loss and “nasal breathing exercises,” citing non-obese apnea cases and anatomical factors.
- A minority voice claims medicine is structurally corrupt and overly symptom-focused; others find this extreme and emphasize practical benefits of existing treatments.
Lifestyle, exercise, and speculative links
- Cardio (running, hockey, cycling) and, for some, heavy weightlifting are reported to dramatically improve sleep; timing and overtraining matter. Walking is advocated as low-risk, broadly beneficial.
- Several note intertwined issues across generations: anxiety, sleep disorders, dementia, autoimmune and digestive problems, wondering about shared mechanisms but acknowledging uncertainty.
- One commenter highlights animal studies from the article on sleep deprivation disrupting metabolism and dopamine, speculating about links to autism/ADHD and gut issues (explicitly speculative).
- Isolated anecdotes: a reported man who “never sleeps” in Vietnam, supplements (sulforaphane, creatine, CBD) seeming to change sleep for individuals—interesting but unvalidated within the discussion.