Recall going back into Windows
Usefulness vs. “episodic memory” concept
- Some see Recall-style features as the natural next step: computers with episodic memory and contextual awareness that can answer questions like “what file was I editing yesterday?” or “reopen that Egyptian site with the red background.”
- Others argue all of this is already possible with existing tools (browser history, search, backups) without “hyperscale AI,” and suspect this is more marketing than real necessity.
- A minority is enthusiastic: they plan to enable Recall immediately and see it as a new paradigm that becomes powerful after years of data.
Privacy, security, and trust in Microsoft
- Major concern: even if processing is local, a continuous screenshot log is a goldmine for malware, law enforcement, and corporate investigators.
- People worry that “opt-in” is temporary; feature toggles can be flipped via update or cloud control once the code is present.
- Some argue the Ars article overstates the risks: Recall is local-only, has exclusions, and requires explicit enabling with Windows Hello. Others counter that Microsoft’s security track record and aggressive dark-pattern UIs make such assurances hard to trust.
Opt-in, coercion, and third‑party exposure
- Even if you never enable Recall, anyone you email, chat, or screen-share with might, effectively opting you into being logged.
- Critics note this is worse than ordinary recording because it’s standardized, pervasive, and potentially correlatable across many parties within the Microsoft ecosystem.
- Workplace angle: “opt-in” may be meaningless on corporate machines if employers mandate Recall for monitoring and metrics. Some say this merely formalizes the heavy spyware they already see on corporate Windows.
Comparisons: Apple, Google, OpenAI, history
- Apple’s “Siri personal context” and Apple Intelligence, and a Google Pixel AI screenshot feature, are seen as similar trends—though Android’s version is less aggressive than 3-second OS-wide captures.
- OpenAI’s memory is viewed as less intrusive because it’s not OS-level, is more explicit, and can be temporarily disabled per interaction.
- Several posts tie Recall to a long lifelogging lineage: DARPA LifeLog, Microsoft SenseCam/MyLifeBits, and academic work on “lifestreams.”
Migration to Linux/Mac and mitigation tools
- Many commenters treat Recall as “final straw” and report successful moves to Linux (often Mint, Cinnamon, Debian, Fedora, Pop!_OS) or macOS, sometimes dual-booting for specific games.
- Linux upsides: control, lack of ads/telemetry, better alignment with power users. Downsides: laptop battery life, sleep issues, mixed-DPI displays, Wayland/X11 quirks, Bluetooth headsets, and anti-cheat–protected games.
- On Windows, some recommend LTSC and tools like Chris Titus’s winutil/MicroWin to strip bloat and disable features like Recall.
General dissatisfaction with Windows direction
- Broader frustrations: ads in the shell, Copilot everywhere, Electron-ified core apps, UI regressions (e.g., clock seconds), and perceived sluggishness even in basic apps.
- Several argue Microsoft is prioritizing telemetry, cloud hooks, and “enshittifying” features over fixing long-standing bugs or delivering minimal, modular systems.