mIRC 7.81
New release and ongoing development
- Several commenters are surprised mIRC is still actively developed; 7.81 (April 9, 2025) is noted as a milestone for ~30‑year‑old, largely solo‑maintained software.
- Some confusion stems from the main site not clearly dating the front‑page news; multiple people argue the HN post should have linked directly to the news page.
Platform, licensing, and business model
- mIRC is still proprietary and Windows‑only; some Linux/macOS users mention WINE as a workaround and gripe about ARM Macs.
- A long subthread revisits the “lifetime license” controversy:
- One side says early “lifetime” licenses were effectively capped at ~10 years and that this feels like a broken promise.
- Others report old licenses (2010 and even earlier) still working and note archived FAQs that asked old users to re‑register if they could, or email for a free renewal.
- It’s unclear what the current policy is; some say the stricter approach has been quietly softened.
- A few people speculate mIRC likely was, or is, a multi‑million‑dollar business, but this is based on filings and guesswork, not detailed discussion.
mIRC scripting and learning to program
- Many reminisce that mIRC scripting was their first real programming environment: bots, trivia games, auto‑responses, custom dialogs, even full GUIs and Win32 API hacks.
- The immediacy (“my friends can use this right now”) is contrasted with more abstract “hello world” learning.
- People compare today’s equivalents (Roblox scripting, Discord bots) but note higher friction and less openness than raw IRC.
IRC vs Discord, forums, and modern platforms
- Views on IRC’s health diverge: some call it a “wasteland,” others say tech/science channels and certain networks are still solid.
- Discord is seen as the de facto replacement for group chat but criticized as a silo, poor archive, and bad substitute for forums.
- Large tangent on vBulletin‑style forums vs Reddit/HN:
- Pro‑forum: better long‑term organization, stronger sense of community, no karma‑driven “hivemind,” good for work and niche hobbies.
- Anti‑forum: huge threads are hard to mine; modern threaded + voting systems surface relevance better.
- Several note how votes become de facto agreement signals and can suppress unpopular but accurate content; ideas like AI‑based scoring are floated.
Alternative IRC clients and ecosystem
- For non‑Windows users, HexChat is suggested as a “spiritual successor,” though it is now explicitly abandoned and depends on community patches.
- Halloy (Rust + iced GUI) is highlighted; some push back on the trend of “X but in Rust” rewrites.
- Other clients mentioned include irssi, WeeChat, and historic ones like amIRC and KVIRC; one point notes mIRC as having strong IRCv3 support.
Nostalgia, warez, and culture
- Many share memories: school IRC servers, town‑specific channels, the mIRC connection sound, About‑box easter eggs, scripting “AI” bots, and custom scripts like NoNameScript/ircN.
- Several recount using mIRC for MP3 and warez trading (DCC, FTP trading rings), early broadband excess, and university or law‑enforcement encounters from that era.
- There’s a sense that early IRC + forums culture fostered deeper, less gamified conversation than much of today’s social media.