U.S. Economy Contracts at 0.3% Rate in First Quarter
Mixed Signals: Inflation, Prices, and GDP
- Commenters note falling headline inflation, some easing in gas and food prices, and stronger-than-expected employment alongside a negative GDP print, calling the picture “mixed.”
- A long subthread debates whether falling prices are good or bad:
- One side argues deflation and “prices going down” often signal weak demand, layoffs, and can trigger self-reinforcing downturns.
- Others counter that price declines should equilibrate via supply cuts and that only true deflationary spirals are dangerous.
- Oil is used as an example: low prices eventually shut production, but also hurt oil-producing regions and capex.
Tariffs, Uncertainty, and the Expected Slump
- Many see the contraction as a predictable consequence of tariff shocks and policy volatility, not a surprise.
- Businesses are described as freezing capex, delaying big decisions, building inventory ahead of tariffs, or simply not importing certain goods rather than fully repricing.
- Several emphasize that labor is a lagging indicator; leading indicators (housing, manufacturing, freight, trucking) are already softening.
- Broad agreement that Q2 (and possibly Q3) will look worse as shipping lags, inventory buffers, and higher input costs fully feed through.
Trade War Mechanics and Global Rewiring
- Multiple comments highlight that tariffs are hitting not just goods from China, but broad trade and services (tourism, US service exports, trust in US suppliers).
- Some argue the US can “survive” due to relatively low trade share of GDP; others respond that US global centrality and dollar status depend precisely on being the hub of trade and finance, which is now being undermined.
- There is recurring comparison to Smoot–Hawley and Brexit: less sudden collapse, more slow, grinding relative decline and reorientation of supply chains away from the US.
GDP, Imports, and Measurement Quirks
- A technical debate breaks out on how imports and inventory buildup enter GDP:
- Some say front-running tariffs via higher imports “subtracts” from GDP by construction.
- Others clarify that imports are an accounting adjustment and the real question is whether import surges displaced domestic production and investment.
- The role of unusual gold imports and government spending composition is mentioned, with Atlanta Fed’s GDPNow cited as having flagged weakness early.
Politics, Blame, and Public Mood
- Many see this as an entirely self-inflicted, tariff-driven shock, with little coherent long-term industrial strategy behind it.
- There is strong skepticism that any “reindustrialization” will materialize given short-termism, legal uncertainty, and fear that tariffs could be reversed before costly US factories ever pay off.
- Commenters note polarised reactions: some call this a necessary “sacrifice,” others see it as class war and a deliberate transfer of pain to labor and small businesses.
- Several predict deep, lasting damage to global trust in the US as a reliable economic and security partner, even if tariffs are later rolled back.