Suno v4.5
Prompting, Style Control & Brackets
- Many users say Suno often ignores complex style prompts, especially mixed or niche genres; it tends to pick one genre or go generic.
- Some report v4.5 adheres better if you use short genre labels plus rich natural-language descriptions and structural markers like
[intro] [chorus] [bridge] [instrumental]. - Text in brackets is generally not sung and can “steer” arrangement (e.g.
[dramatic synths, pulsing techno bass],[bass drop],[whispered],[Interrupt]). - There’s consensus that it pays more attention to lyrics than to style tags; mismatched lyrics/style often results in the style being ignored.
Genre Fidelity & Language Quality
- Several demo genres are criticized as mis-labeled: “Cajun synthpop chant” sounding like country, “Acid House” not acid, “Jungle” more like liquid DnB, many electronic styles feeling generic or wrong.
- Others find mainstream or well-represented genres impressively accurate (e.g. French ska, klezmer, some jazz).
- Non-English output is a major weak spot: users report gibberish or wrong vowels in Urdu/Hindi and other languages; others say Spanish, French, and custom Japanese lyrics can work well.
Lyrics, Vocals & Audio Artifacts
- Lyrics are widely seen as Suno’s weakest aspect: clichéd, “cringe”, poor rhythmic fit, wrong stresses and syllable counts; some speculate it uses a weaker LLM.
- Users often prefer generating lyrics with another model and feeding them into Suno; v4.5’s “Remi” lyric option is described as more unhinged/creative.
- Vocals retain a synthetic “vocaloid/tinny” quality versus competitors; high frequencies are described as “washy” or now “damped”.
- Classical phrasing, meter, and some vocal pronunciations remain unreliable.
UI, UX & Access
- The new genre-exploration UI is praised as fun and mobile-friendly, but others find it hard to read, jittery, or slow on some desktops; some actions (titles, downloads) are non-obvious, especially on mobile.
- Requests include easier downloading, better tutorials/prompting guides, and an API.
Use Cases: Toy, Tool, and Function
- Casual users enjoy it as a toy for joke songs, genre mashups, alternative covers, wedding gags, or sleep/background music.
- Some musicians use it to prototype songs, generate vocals over human-made instrumentals, or quickly realize ideas that would be too expensive to produce traditionally.
- A notable thread highlights “functional music”: emotionally supportive tracks (e.g. therapy/grounding, meditation, educational rap, kindergarten songs) that would never be commercially commissioned.
Impact on Musicians & Motivation
- Some composers feel energized and use Suno as part of a serious workflow; others say AI music has “killed” their motivation, given how quickly acceptable results can be generated without years of study.
- There’s an extended debate over whether AI music is just another tool (like DAWs and presets) vs. something that directly displaces creative labor in a qualitatively new way.
Legal, IP & Ethics
- Commenters note ongoing lawsuits from major labels and collecting societies over unlicensed training; views differ on whether Suno’s use is “obviously illegal” or plausibly transformative fair use.
- Fair use conditions (profit vs non-profit, market substitution, transformative use) are argued from multiple angles; consensus is that it’s legally unresolved.
- Some see using others’ catalogs as “misuse of collective IP”; others dismiss IP as a legal fiction or note that human songwriters are also influenced by existing music.
- Billing language like “commercial use rights for songs made while subscribed” feels to some like “you’ll own nothing”; others worry about Content ID collisions.
Originality, Taste & Cultural Role
- Critics argue Suno averages the training distribution, yielding competent but “cookie-cutter” music lacking true surprise; especially obvious to trained ears in rhythm, harmony, and structure.
- Defenders reply that most human pop is also formulaic, and for many listeners Suno is already indistinguishable from low–mid-tier commercial music, especially as anonymous background audio.
- There’s deep disagreement on whether AI music can build artist-like followings and cultural impact, or will remain an anonymous commodity while human artists remain central for emotionally meaningful work.
Feature Gaps & Future Directions
- Frequently requested: open-source models, multi-track stems, MIDI/sheet-music or DAW project export, finer-grained per-instrument control, more robust cover/transform (“track2track”) workflows, better spatial control and genre purity.
- Some argue the real opportunity is not “one-prompt full songs” but interactive, stem-level collaboration tools for musicians—“vibe coding” inside something that feels like a simplified DAW.