DOGE engineer's credentials found in past public leaks from info-stealer malware
Access, Clearances, and Accountability
- Several commenters ask whether the US has an authority that can deny privileged access for poor operational security (e.g., revoking clearances).
- Others note DOGE staff appear not to hold traditional security clearances, so there’s nothing to revoke; document security is ultimately under the President and delegated to agencies.
- Multiple people argue agencies and oversight bodies are aware but are choosing not to act, often framed as a political decision by the current Congress and administration rather than a capability gap.
Is the Article Clickbait or Legitimate?
- Some see the Ars piece as “clickbait”: the title implies an actively infected DOGE work computer, while the body clarifies that credentials appeared in leaks over time, some a decade old.
- Others respond that the headline is technically accurate and that the original investigative source (linked through Ars) makes a credible case that malware “stealer logs,” not just ordinary breaches, are involved.
- Critics argue that including routine Have I Been Pwned (HIBP) hits alongside stealer logs muddies the story and weakens the evidence.
Stealer Logs vs Standard Breaches
- Several comments stress the distinction: normal database breaches can expose emails/passwords without any infection on the user’s device, whereas stealer malware logs imply credentials captured directly from an infected machine.
- Others push back that even stealer logs can contain addresses typed by third parties or be polluted by credential stuffing, so presence alone isn’t definitive proof of compromise.
- There’s disagreement over how many such logs (one vs several) are needed before it’s reasonable to infer poor OPSEC.
Government OpSec and DOGE’s Practices
- Commenters contrast traditional classified environments (air‑gapped networks, locked‑down workstations, no personal devices) with DOGE’s reported behavior (personal laptops, elevated access, nonstandard systems).
- Several argue that, given DOGE’s access to sensitive financial and infrastructure data, even the appearance of repeated compromises is unacceptable and should trigger serious consequences.
- Others think the article is overreaching and that focusing on speculative malware implications distracts from clearer, documented DOGE failures (defaced sites, misread numbers).
Intent vs Incompetence and Political Overtones
- A recurring thread debates Hanlon’s razor: are these failures just incompetence, or deliberate sabotage / alignment with foreign interests?
- Some insist the pattern of security lapses and policy choices has passed the point where “stupidity” is a plausible sole explanation; others warn against conspiracy thinking without hard proof.
- The discussion frequently veers into partisan blame, Trump vs Biden, Russia/Ukraine, and DOGE’s claimed “savings,” showing strong polarization around the broader context rather than the narrow technical issue.