Man 'Disappeared' by ICE Was on El Salvador Flight Manifest, Hacked Data Shows
Authoritarian Drift and “Disappearances”
- Many see the reported ICE “disappearance” as a classic authoritarian tactic: removing people off the books, ignoring courts, and outsourcing detention to foreign prisons.
- Commenters compare it to historic disappearances and early-stage fascism; some explicitly invoke Nazi Germany and political prisons.
- Several stress that in a functioning democracy, people do not simply vanish into foreign prisons, regardless of their immigration status or alleged crimes.
Public Concern, Apathy, and Media
- Debate over whether there is “widespread concern”:
- One view: people are worried but feel powerless, tune out depressing news, or believe it “can’t happen to them.”
- Another: concern exists but is underreported or distorted by media captured by political and corporate interests.
- Strong criticism that mainstream outlets are either supportive of the administration or fearful of retaliation, and so soft-pedal or normalize extreme actions.
- Others counter that some major outlets are openly critical, though critics respond that owners can and do constrain coverage at key moments.
Due Process vs. “Who Is He?”
- A subthread asks who the disappeared man is and why he was targeted.
- Several argue that this is irrelevant: the core issue is lack of transparent process, notification, and legal safeguards.
- It’s noted he had an immigration court order of deportation; others respond that still does not justify secret transfer to a foreign mega-prison or hiding his whereabouts from family and lawyers.
Trust in Evidence and Hacked Data
- Some distrust all actors—government, media, and activist hackers—arguing that anyone willing to break the law to obtain data may manipulate it.
- Others reply that insisting on perfectly “clean” messengers is a recipe for paralysis and denial, especially when the state itself is breaking its own laws.
What To Do: Resistance, Exit, and Alternatives
- Suggested responses include: organizing local communities, creating independent non-ad-driven news outlets, adding “legal friction” to state abuses, and boycotting the airline involved.
- Disagreement over tactics: some call for riots; others say rioting backfires and strengthens repression.
- A parallel thread argues about whether to flee an increasingly authoritarian U.S. or stay and “fight,” with both paths seen as morally valid but risky.