Getting a Cease and Desist from Waffle House
Overall reaction to Waffle House’s response
- Many see this as a big missed marketing/PR opportunity: free goodwill, viral attention, and a chance to “lean into” the Waffle House Index mythos at essentially no cost.
- Others argue the response is exactly what a large brand will do “every single time” when someone uses their marks and appears official.
- Several commenters say this story is a reminder that Waffle House is a corporation and should be treated as such: don’t expect “cool” behavior over legal caution.
Trademark, branding, and control
- Strong consensus that using the logo, brand colors, and “Waffle House” in the domain made the site look official and is classic trademark infringement territory.
- Multiple people say US law effectively forces active enforcement or risk dilution; a C&D is seen as the standard tool, even for benign uses.
- Some push back that licensing or a “used under permission” arrangement was possible; others counter that this creates ongoing overhead and risk, so the cheapest option is to shut it down.
- Debate over how absolute the “must enforce or lose it” narrative really is; some lawyers in the thread call that an oversimplification.
Liability, disaster optics, and “disaster brand” concerns
- Several commenters note potential tort risk: if the site appears semi-official and is wrong, people might rely on it for safety decisions and sue.
- Others highlight economic risk: incorrect “closed” labels could directly cost stores revenue or create employee-management conflicts.
- Some argue Waffle House likely doesn’t want to be tightly tied to “national disasters” as a core brand message, despite the positive story of resiliency.
Scraping and data use
- People distinguish between (a) trademark issues and (b) scraping status data. Most think the C&D was about marks, but note the data source was later patched anyway.
- There’s discussion of ToS, scraping case law, and big scrapers (AI, adtech) as context; consensus is that scraping alone would have been a murkier, slower fight.
Alternatives and what could have been done
- Common suggestions:
- Remove logo and WH-styled branding; use a generic name (“Waffle Index”, “disaster index”) and a clear “unofficial” disclaimer.
- Aggregate multiple chains to dilute brand-specific issues.
- Some argue an individual developer is rational to comply fully: C&Ds are scary, lawyers are expensive, and low-probability IP lawsuits can still be ruinous.