Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America
Perceived Authoritarian Drift & “Plot Against America”
- Several commenters see Yarvin’s ideas reflected in current U.S. trends: normalized political violence, stronger “unitary executive,” targeting of dissidents, and ambitions to hollow out the federal state in favor of state–corporate power blocs.
- Some argue Trump is only a “vibes coup”; the real danger is a future, more competent authoritarian who inherits the altered norms and legal tools.
- Others think this is alarmist or analytically shallow, arguing his premises have already failed predictive tests.
Platforming vs. Ignoring Yarvin
- There’s tension between “don’t amplify cranks” and “ignoring cranks got us here.”
- One side says giving him New Yorker treatment legitimizes him and wastes attention; the other says once his ideas influence people in power, mainstream scrutiny is a civic duty.
- Multiple people stress that debate itself doesn’t “legitimize” ideas; suppression by omission is seen as both unrealistic and dangerous.
Influence on Tech & Current Politics
- Commenters highlight ties to wealthy tech figures and to a sitting vice president who has publicly praised Yarvin and borrowed his rhetoric about purging the civil service.
- Project 2025 and related plans to remake the executive branch are repeatedly linked, by commenters, to Yarvin-ish blueprints for “technological fascism.”
Assessment of His Ideas & Ideology
- Harsh view: his political program is neo-feudal, unoriginal (likened to old technocracy), internally inconsistent, and morally abhorrent (race science, genocide talk, “states own citizens”).
- Milder critics say his diagnoses of how power actually works and of democratic failure are sometimes insightful, but his solutions are teenage thought experiments.
- A few defend him as “thought-provoking” and worth reading to stress-test democratic assumptions, while explicitly rejecting his conclusions.
Urbit & Technocracy as Mirrors
- Urbit is cited as a technical analogue of his politics: grandiose re‑invention of everything, extremely complex, few real problems solved, but impressive-looking to non-experts.
- Broader critique of technocrats: confusing aesthetic neatness for real-world effectiveness; “Brasilia in Substack form.”
Cultural & Meta Notes
- Cyberpunk and Stephenson’s worlds (Snow Crash, Diamond Age) are invoked as dystopias misread as aspirational—parallels drawn to Yarvin fans.
- Some lament that this kind of far-right guru gets major-media oxygen while socialist or egalitarian alternatives remain marginal.
- On HN itself, users are split between flagging the thread out of exhaustion and insisting that, given his proximity to power, discussion is necessary.