Infomaniak comes out in support of controversial Swiss encryption law

User reactions to Infomaniak’s stance

• Many commenters had just migrated domains, email, or cloud storage to Infomaniak based on its “Swiss privacy” marketing and now feel betrayed or regretful.
• Some say Infomaniak is “dead to them” and will move domains and data elsewhere, even if it’s painful to migrate large datasets again.
• Others aren’t surprised, noting it’s common for hosting providers to avoid “truly anonymous” services because such customers can be expensive and risky.

Privacy, AI, and “shared values”

• One commenter argues that, with AI and pervasive tracking, anonymity is becoming obsolete and that some level of traceability might help protect democracies from disinformation and abuse.
• This triggers a long philosophical debate about whether humans have any truly “shared values,” with examples like freedom, dignity, and “murder/stealing are bad” challenged as context‑dependent.
• Several participants stress that it’s safer to define boundaries on actions, not beliefs, and warn that any claimed universal value tends to be used to suppress dissent.

Swiss context and law prospects

• Some Swiss commenters emphasize Switzerland is not a police state and relies on citizen responsibility; others respond that every police state uses similar rhetoric.
• One person claims the proposal is broadly opposed politically and “very unlikely” to pass; others link critical local coverage and describe it as Switzerland copying authoritarian surveillance states.
• There’s mention that other Swiss services (e.g. VPN/email providers) already face or will face surveillance and data retention, undermining “Swiss privacy” as a safe haven.

Alternatives and jurisdiction shopping

• Multiple domain registrar alternatives are suggested (mostly European), including options for .ch and .li, though users accept tradeoffs in UI or jurisdiction.
• Some argue there is effectively “nowhere to go”: small privacy‑friendly states will fold under pressure from larger powers, and famous examples of secrecy (e.g. Swiss banking) have already eroded.
• A strong contingent says true privacy increasingly requires self‑hosting rather than trusting any provider or jurisdiction.

Broader surveillance and authoritarianism concerns

• Several commenters see a global shift toward authoritarianism (populist or technocratic) and view anti‑encryption/anti‑VPN measures as part of that trend.
• Others counter that some level of surveillance is necessary for law enforcement and victim protection, leading to a heated exchange about police states, rule of law, and the cost of liberty.