Administering immunotherapy in the morning seems to matter. Why?
Study design, randomization, and confounders
- Initial skepticism focused on the idea that “morning patients are healthier,” but others pointed out this was a randomized clinical trial where infusion times were assigned, not self-scheduled.
- Several commenters note that randomization addresses patient-side confounders (work status, support systems) but not all clinic-side ones (e.g., nurse alertness, staffing patterns).
- There’s confusion and debate over how randomization “controls for confounders,” and recognition that some factors (shift quality, drug handling, clinic workflow) may not be fully randomized.
- Some are uneasy about the very large reported effect size (hazard ratio ~0.45), calling it “implausibly high” and suggesting possibilities like data dredging, protocol drift, or hidden operational differences.
- Others criticize the trial for being single-site, having evolving design/criteria, and lacking detailed reporting (e.g., CONSORT diagram), and see it as important but in need of replication.
Circadian biology and possible mechanisms
- Many find a circadian explanation intuitively plausible: immune activity, cell replication, hormone levels, metabolism, and glucose dynamics all vary strongly by time of day.
- Fasting overnight is raised as a factor (autophagy, lower glucose, different tissue environments), though commenters differ on how strong this effect is versus everyday eating patterns.
- Some note existing “chronotherapy” work and even a Nobel-winning circadian clock literature as implicit support that timing can matter for treatment response.
Anecdotes on timing of treatment
- Multiple personal stories describe major differences in side effects or outcomes when shifting medication from morning to afternoon/evening (chemo adjuncts, folic acid, allergy immunotherapy).
- One striking case from the 1990s: shifting a DNA-analog chemo to evening based on progenitor-cell circadian data appeared to preserve immune function, but the protocol was not adopted because no trial existed.
- Others mention oncology practices already preferring earlier-in-the-day infusions for some cancers (e.g., metastatic melanoma cutoffs).
Evidence-based medicine, bureaucracy, and ethics
- Strong tension appears between:
- “Don’t change treatment on N=1 hunches; that’s what trials and IRBs are for,” and
- “The system is so slow and conservative that simple, low-risk ideas like time-of-day tweaks languish for decades.”
- Commenters argue over whether small, low-risk pilot changes (e.g., shifting a few patients’ infusion times) should require heavy IRB oversight.
- Some see current safeguards as essential against historical abuses; others see them as overgrown bureaucracy that blocks meaningful, low-cost optimization.
Generalization and open questions
- People wonder whether similar timing effects apply to allergy immunotherapy, immunosuppressants for autoimmune disease, or other immune-modulating drugs; this remains unclear in the thread.
- Practical questions arise about how to prioritize scarce morning slots, and whether circadian-shifted environments (e.g., artificial “morning” at noon) could substitute real-time morning dosing.