We’re secretly winning the war on cancer
Personal experiences with treatment
- Multiple commenters describe dramatic responses to modern therapies: rapid tumor shrinkage within hours of targeted infusions, long remissions from CAR‑T and clinical trials, and relatively tolerable chemo regimens like R‑CHOP compared with older treatments.
- MD Anderson is repeatedly cited as an example of cutting‑edge care, particularly for rare blood cancers and lymphomas.
- Others share losses (parents, spouses, young relatives with glioblastoma or aggressive breast/ovarian cancers), stressing that “winning” doesn’t match their lived experience.
Therapeutic advances
- Strong enthusiasm for immunotherapy: checkpoint inhibitors (e.g., PD‑1 drugs), CAR‑T, and related approaches are seen as genuine breakthroughs, especially for certain blood cancers and multiple myeloma.
- Novel modalities like tumor‑treating fields (electric‑field helmets for glioblastoma) and ferroptosis‑based strategies are highlighted as promising, with evidence of improved survival in select settings.
- Commenters note better molecular profiling of tumors and more precise subtyping as quiet but major progress.
Limits and hard cases
- Several argue most patients still get “slash, burn, poison” (surgery, radiation, classic chemo), with only incremental gains for many solid tumors; prostate cancer is cited as an area with mostly marginal improvements.
- Glioblastoma is repeatedly mentioned as an example where progress is slow and outcomes remain grim.
- Pain, toxicity, and chronicity (e.g., lifelong oral drugs for some blood cancers) remain major burdens.
Prevention, environment, and risk factors
- Many see the big mortality drop since ~1990 as largely driven by reduced smoking, regulation of carcinogens, and broader environmental/occupational protections.
- Debate over “Cancer Alley” and refinery regions: some claim excess cancer is just socioeconomic confounding; others argue pollution and poverty are causally entangled and can’t be “adjusted away.”
- Rising early‑onset colorectal cancer concerns drive strong calls for colonoscopy or stool tests starting by 40–45; obesity, diet, plastics, PFAS, and broader lifestyle changes are all proposed as contributors, with no consensus.
Screening and diagnostics
- Commenters emphasize that early detection is as important as better drugs; colonoscopy can prevent cancer via polyp removal, while FOBT/FIT are low‑risk, accessible options.
- CT/MRI/PET access is highly variable: some report same‑day imaging, others weeks to months of delays, often due to insurance pre‑approval rather than machine capacity.
Access, cost, and health systems
- Many stories hinge on excellent employer insurance covering six‑figure drugs; chronic therapies can list at ~$180k/year.
- High costs motivate talk of emigrating to countries with public healthcare, but others note such systems may restrict immigration of people with expensive conditions.
- US insurance bureaucracy (pre‑auths, denials, “do you really want this scan?” letters) is widely criticized as delaying care and adding stress.
- European commenters note that advanced immunotherapies are often provided at no out‑of‑pocket cost within public systems.
Politics and research climate
- One subthread argues that specific US administrations have harmed cancer progress via cuts to NIH/FDA‑related efforts, hostility to higher education and immigration, and anti‑vaccine or anti‑mRNA rhetoric.
- Others are fatigued by politicization but concede that funding and regulatory policy directly affect cancer research and access.
Alternative and fringe treatments
- A few repeatedly promote fenbendazole/ivermectin as “overlooked miracle” cancer drugs, linking to papers and non‑mainstream sites.
- Several push back hard, calling associated rhetoric conspiratorial and stressing that credible treatments should rest on strong, depoliticized clinical data; overall efficacy of these agents in humans remains unclear in the discussion.
Other diseases and comparisons
- Some contrast cancer progress with slower movement on type 1 diabetes, though others note big gains in T1D life expectancy and emerging regenerative approaches.
- One commenter reminds that as deaths from other causes fall and populations age, absolute cancer cases can rise even while age‑adjusted mortality drops.
Role of AI and data
- Machine learning (more than “gen AI” specifically) is cited as already useful in imaging—finding early cancers radiologists miss—and seen as crucial for sifting massive research datasets.
Are “we” winning?
- Optimistic view: age‑adjusted death rates are falling sharply despite aging populations; specific cancers once nearly hopeless now have strong 5‑year survival; thousands of patients each month benefit from targeted and immunotherapies.
- Skeptical view: incidence remains high or rising; many common cancers have only modest survival gains; access is uneven and often tied to wealth or geography; treatments remain brutal for many.
- Several conclude that progress is real and accelerating, especially in some subtypes, but “winning the war on cancer” is premature and unevenly distributed.