Endometriosis is an interesting disease
Heritability, mechanisms, and fertility
- Several comments note strong familial clustering (multiple generations affected), supporting a major genetic component.
- Mechanisms of infertility discussed: damage to ovaries and fallopian tubes, impaired egg release/transport, and possibly a less hospitable uterine environment.
- IVF is reported to work “reasonably well” for many, though with somewhat worse outcomes than other IVF patients.
What endometriosis is, and how weird it gets
- Clarification: it’s endometrial‑like tissue outside the uterus, causing repeated inflammation, fibrosis, adhesions and structural distortion in the pelvis and beyond.
- Comparisons to cancer: lesions acquire similar mutations and immune‑evasion properties yet are classified “benign,” which some see as a blind spot.
- Very rare cases in men are mentioned (including literature citing ~16 cases, often hormone‑related) and a striking case of XY‑karyotype endometriosis after bone marrow transplant.
- A paper linking Fusobacterium in endometrial tissue to endometriosis is cited, underscoring how incomplete current models (e.g. retrograde menstruation) are.
Treatment: hormones, surgery, and experimental ideas
- Many clinicians reportedly default to hormonal suppression (birth control) and then, if that fails, to surgery. Some say it “responds well;” others say not nearly well enough.
- Strong debate over surgical technique:
- Most OB/GYNs do ablation (burning visible lesions), which critics compare to “cutting grass” and say has high recurrence and more scar tissue.
- A smaller group specializes in wide excision of diseased and surrounding tissue, with better but not perfect outcomes.
- Hysterectomy is described as life‑restoring in severe, refractory cases but obviously sacrifices fertility and can trigger early menopause.
- Chemotherapy is viewed as too toxic for a benign disease; immunotherapy is being explored. Adhesion‑barrier use during surgery is inconsistently planned.
Diagnosis difficulty and health‑system failures
- Many stories involve years or decades of severe pain dismissed as “normal cramps,” constipation, appendicitis, or psychogenic.
- Several women only got diagnosed after self‑research, AI symptom checkers, or chance encounters with information.
- Newer guidelines (in Europe) recommend MRI as first‑line imaging instead of insisting on laparoscopy, but awareness lags.
- Commenters generalize to a broader pattern: medicine is optimized for the common 80–90% of cases; “tricky” chronic conditions in both sexes are poorly handled by rushed, metric‑driven systems.
Pain, mental health, and lived experience
- Multiple accounts describe pain exceeding other severe experiences (e.g., tonsillitis, other chronic pain disorders), sometimes leading to suicidal thoughts.
- Some note high suicide rates in comparable chronic pain conditions and emphasize how patients must “learn to live in it” over years.
- Repeated reminders that pain is highly individual and comparing whose pain is worse is unhelpful.
Gender bias and research funding debates
- One recurring argument: if men commonly had endometriosis, research and funding would be much higher. This triggers pushback:
- Others say men’s conditions (e.g., chronic pelvic pain, some autoimmune diseases) are also neglected, and the core issue is scientific difficulty plus system incentives, not only sexism.
- Examples are raised on both sides: breast vs prostate cancer funding, underfunded COPD, male‑biased animal models that ignore female hormone cycles.
- A long meta‑comment suggests some diseases (especially autoimmune/complex disorders) remain intractable even with large funding, cautioning against attributing everything to malice.
Lifestyle, alternative approaches, and anecdotal “programs”
- A few anecdotes claim large symptom improvements or lesion shrinkage via yoga, dietary changes (unprocessed food, gut focus), stress reduction, and “Eastern” approaches.
- Some individuals now sell or plan programs based on their personal protocols; others in the thread express interest but also caution about paying for yet another unproven solution.
- No controlled data are presented; these are positioned as hopeful but purely anecdotal.
Cultural and informational context
- Commenters note that medical advice on gynecologic and reproductive issues varies widely by country (e.g., sex during menstruation and supposed endo risk in Japanese sources vs English‑language ones).
- Broader examples (infant sleep, food introduction, alcohol in pregnancy, SIDS advice) are used to illustrate that “settled” health guidance is often culture‑ and language‑specific.
Technology and AI in care
- Some see diagnostic LLMs and symptom‑checker AIs as promising, citing at least one case where an AI suggestion led to correct endometriosis diagnosis.
- Others argue high‑quality clinical data, bias control, and alignment with cost constraints are major barriers, and AI may end up reproducing the same median‑case bias as current systems.