Personal care products disrupt the human oxidation field
Health implications and study scope
- Multiple commenters note the paper explicitly avoids health claims; it measures indoor air chemistry near people, not disease outcomes.
- Several people ask “is this bad or good?”; others respond that it’s unclear whether dampening the oxidation field is beneficial or harmful overall.
- One atmospheric‑chemistry–savvy commenter stresses this is not a basis for personal health advice; it only shows that lotions perturb local oxidation chemistry.
Indoor air chemistry, ions, and ozone
- Discussion branches into hydroxyl radicals as “detergents of the atmosphere” that break down pollutants like methane.
- Negative ion generators and air ionizers are debated: they can remove particulates but often create ozone, which is lung‑toxic at relatively low, hard‑to‑smell concentrations.
- Some technical back‑and‑forth covers how negative/positive ions are always produced together and how membranes or reactions separate or use them.
Lotions, oxidation fields, and ‘natural’ vs synthetic
- The study is interpreted as: body lotions and perfumes consume OH radicals and reduce oxidation of indoor emissions around people.
- One reading is that this might reduce exposure to unknown oxidation products from furniture and building materials; another counters that disrupting a “natural” process may have its own risks.
- Debate arises over whether using simple oils (olive, sunflower, coconut) is “most likely” safer than complex commercial formulas, with objections about naturalistic fallacy and lack of data.
Fragrances, regulation, and consumer behavior
- Several comments argue many fragrance chemicals have cancer or endocrine‑disruption concerns, yet remain widely used; others point to stricter EU regulation and recent bans on specific ingredients.
- There’s strong preference among some for fragrance‑free products; others describe market data where wealthier consumers tend toward subtler or no scents.
- Access to unscented detergents varies regionally; heavily perfumed laundry products are described as overwhelming.
Hygiene practices, soap, and evolution
- A tangent debates minimal showering versus daily washing; some report clear personal or social downsides to infrequent bathing.
- One commenter invokes evolution to question the need for soap; others respond that many people historically died from infections and that hygiene and medical interventions drastically reduced mortality.
Scientific communication and access
- Several see the title (“disrupt”) as sensational, preferring neutral terms like “perturb.”
- Others complain that paywalls, JavaScript, and bot‑protection hinder reading the article, leading to comment‑first, article‑later reactions.