The untold impact of cancellation
GitHub open letter and signatures
- The Scala community’s open letter repo remains online with a note discouraging issues; people debate whether refusing removals is unjust or a justified record of “mob” participation.
- Some see keeping names as moral accountability and a deterrent against future pile‑ons; others argue it’s unethical to leave a defamatory list unmaintained and undeletable.
- Several recent commit messages removing signatures explicitly express regret about lack of due process and recognize the letter as the wrong approach.
Courts, due process, and mob justice
- Many argue allegations of serious misconduct should be handled only by police and courts, stressing “innocent until proven guilty.”
- Others counter that legal systems often fail sexual abuse victims, are slow, expensive, and biased, so people resort to public pressure as a last resort.
- There is broad concern about “witch‑hunt” dynamics: pile‑ons, virtue signaling, social pressure to sign, and no meaningful path to redemption once accusations go viral.
False accusations and punishment
- Some commenters advocate harsh criminal penalties for provably false allegations, even mirroring the potential sentence of the accused; opponents say this chills legitimate reporting and conflicts with free speech.
- Defamation/libel is highlighted as the formal remedy, but practical barriers (cost, jurisdiction, anonymity) mean many never sue.
Law vs community norms
- Repeated debate over whether only criminal behavior should have social consequences.
- One side: communities must be allowed to shun people for non‑criminal but harmful behavior (e.g., boundary‑violating, manipulative, bigoted).
- Other side: letting “implicit communities” enforce shifting moral codes without process invites abuse; if conduct deserves serious penalties, it should be legislated and adjudicated.
What’s actually known in this case
- The article’s author obtained a UK consent order: four open‑letter signatories admitted they had no evidence beyond unverified accusations and paid costs/damages.
- This order did not involve the original accusers or adjudicate truth; it only established that those signers couldn’t substantiate their public claims.
- Accusers’ blog posts describe power‑imbalanced, alcohol‑mediated sexual encounters and later feeling harassed; some readers find these narratives highly plausible, others see ambiguity, self‑contradiction, or possible collusion.
- Multiple commenters emphasize that outsiders cannot know the full truth; the real issue is the community’s willingness to act decisively on unproven claims.
Impact of cancellation and behavior changes
- Many are struck by how thoroughly social ostracism destroyed the author’s career and mental health, even after partial legal vindication.
- Several men say this and similar stories have made them more guarded with women and children (e.g., avoiding mentoring, never being alone with women, disengaging from distressed kids in public).
- Others worry that fear of cancellation will worsen loneliness and reduce cross‑gender collaboration, while still not stopping truly predatory behavior.
Broader reflections on #MeToo, shame, and status
- Some see #MeToo as necessary correction with limited “overcorrection”; others think social media justice has gone too far and delegitimizes real victims.
- Distinction is drawn between justified shaming/ostracism to enforce norms vs online mobs seeking status and “moral thrills.”
- Several note cancellation activity seems to have cooled since 2020–21, but reputational risk remains asymmetric: high‑status or wealthy offenders often shrug it off, while niche community figures are ruined.
Miscellaneous
- A noticeable subthread complains about the article’s font choice as unusually hard to read.
- Another subthread revisits the original 2021 HN discussion, contrasting its near‑unanimous acceptance of the accusations with today’s more skeptical, process‑focused tone.