Lithium compound can reverse Alzheimer’s in mice: study
Emotional impact of Alzheimer’s
- Multiple commenters share personal stories of relatives with Alzheimer’s or related dementias.
- Emphasis that it is terminal, with severe bodily degeneration, loss of basic functions, aggression, mood swings, and “sundowning.”
- Some argue it’s among the worst possible fates; others point out there are diseases with more conscious suffering, so comparisons are difficult.
- A few explicitly state they would prefer to risk death or serious side effects over progressing into late-stage dementia.
Lithium orotate, self-experimentation, and “safetyism”
- Many note lithium orotate is already an OTC supplement and say they immediately ordered or already take low doses.
- One caregiver describes dramatic, rapid improvements in a parent’s late-stage neurodegenerative condition after microdosing lithium orotate, while acknowledging this is anecdotal and early.
- Others report negative subjective effects (apathy, sedation, “blah”) and stopping the supplement.
- There is debate over warnings in the article:
- One side calls them empty liability-driven “safetyism” and argues patients/caregivers should decide risk–reward, especially given Alzheimer’s severity.
- The other side stresses evidence-based medicine, mouse–human gaps, and real risks (kidney/thyroid damage, mood changes, drug interactions), especially at higher doses.
Lithium biology, dosing, and side effects
- Distinction between:
- High-dose lithium carbonate for bipolar disorder (requires monitoring, kidney risk, many side effects).
- Very low-dose lithium orotate as a supplement, argued by some to be orders of magnitude safer.
- Others counter that lithium ion is the active component regardless of salt; above certain doses, blood monitoring should apply to any form.
- Several point to observational work: lithium in drinking water linked to lower suicide/crime, and bipolar patients on lithium having lower dementia risk than those on other mood stabilizers.
- Side discussions cover unclear mechanisms of lithium’s psychiatric effects, its broad action on ion channels, and how little is truly understood.
Mouse models, mechanism, and skepticism
- Multiple comments warn that Alzheimer’s mouse models are notoriously unreliable and wild mice don’t naturally develop human-like Alzheimer’s.
- Some are still impressed that the study improved cognition in both Alzheimer’s-model and normal aged mice.
- Mechanistic discussion: amyloid plaques may sequester lithium; lithium orotate’s lower ionization and reduced amyloid binding might keep more lithium bioavailable.
- Concern that because lithium orotate is cheap and not patentable, strong industry-funded human trials may be slow or unlikely.